Lordship Salvation’s Franklin Graham: Samaritan’s Curse

By johninnc

Galatians 1:8-9: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

We have featured a number of articles over the years that have highlighted the false gospel taught by famed evangelist the late Billy Graham, and have also included a few mentions of his son Franklin Graham. Please see below for a sample of previous articles that feature, or mention prominently, the Grahams:

Who Makes These Errors?

Billy Graham, King of Lordship Salvation’s False Gospel

Lordship Salvation’s Billy Graham Sets Trap

Lordship Salvation: Don’t Give My Regards to Broadway

Franklin Graham has taken the reigns of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA), the organization founded by his late father. The BGEA teaches a false gospel of works (Lordship “salvation”), as found on its website under “Steps to Peace with God.” Following is an excerpt:

To receive Christ you need to do four things:

1. ADMIT your spiritual need. “I am a sinner.”

2. REPENT and be willing to turn from your sin.

3. BELIEVE that Jesus Christ died for you on the cross.

4. RECEIVE, through prayer, Jesus Christ into your heart and life

My comment: The Bible says anyone who believes the gospel has eternal life that can never be lost or forfeited. Nowhere does scripture say that a person must be willing to turn from sin in order to receive the free gift of eternal life. If one had to be willing to turn from sin in order to receive eternal life, then eternal life would not be a gift – it would be a trade. And, nowhere does the Bible say that one must receive through prayer, Jesus Christ into his heart and life.

As if the false gospel being promoted by BGEA isn’t bad enough, it’s affiliate Samaritan’s Purse has a similar false gospel. Following are excerpts from Samaritan’s Purse’s Statement of Faith:

We believe that all men everywhere are lost and face the judgment of God, that Jesus Christ is the only way of salvation, and that for the salvation of lost and sinful man, repentance of sin and faith in Jesus Christ results in regeneration by the Holy Spirit. Furthermore, we believe that God will reward the righteous with eternal life in heaven…

My comment: Like the false gospel of the BGEA, Samaritan’s Purse has added “repentance of sin” as a condition for receiving the free gift of eternal life. Samaritan’s Purse further muddies the water by saying that “God will reward the righteous with eternal life in heaven.” Eternal life is a gift, not a reward, and it begins the moment one believes in Jesus as Savior, not after physical death.

Samaritan’s Purse does a lot of seemingly good things, including disaster response, and Operation Christmas Child. But, the express purpose of all of their outreach efforts is evangelism and discipleship training. There is no way that an organization that perverts the gospel is fit to take on either task.

Lately, Franklin Graham has an additional take on how to be a good Samaritan. It involves shots ostensibly designed to prevent COVID-19. He can’t seem to stay out of the news. Following are excerpts of a recent post from his Facebook page, which have received widespread attention in the media:

“I have even been asked if Jesus were physically walking on earth now, would He be an advocate for vaccines. My answer was that based on the parable of the Good Samaritan in the Bible, I would have to say—yes, I think Jesus Christ would advocate for people using vaccines and medicines to treat suffering and save lives. In this Scripture passage, Jesus told about a man beaten and wounded, lying on the roadside as religious leaders passed by and didn’t help. But a Samaritan, considered a social outcast of the day, becomes the hero of the story when he stops and cares for the injured man—pouring oil and wine, which were the top medicines of the day, on the man’s wounds.”

My comment: Using Jesus’ name to promote the worldly “solution” to COVID, based on the parable of the Good Samaritan, is highly-speculative and stretches my limits of credulity. And, saying that Jesus would be an advocate for vaccines does not mean that He would have been an advocate for the COVID jabs. It is worth noting that the Good Samaritan aided a man who was beaten and wounded, not someone who had a low probability of becoming beaten and wounded.

And, here are excerpts from a recent article entitled Franklin Graham Urges Evangelicals to Get Vaccinated Before it’s ‘Too Late’:

“I want people to know that COVID-19 can kill you. But we have a vaccine out there that could possibly save your life. And if you wait, it could be too late…

My father was a firm believer in medicine. He believed in it, so he would have been a supporter — no question…

To me, there was no question it was safe…

We are leaders in the community, and we have a responsibility to inform them of the truth…

Of course, and I’m pro-life. Medicine is pro-life…”

Graham said he has not been approached by the current White House administration to get information about the vaccine to evangelicals but said he’d work with President Joe Biden and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention if asked.

Getting vaccinated is a personal choice, Graham stressed, but he said, “I would encourage people to pray about it, to look into it, to investigate it.”

My comment: Someone can be a firm believer in medicine without hewing to the dominant media narrative as to the safety and efficacy of the COVID shots. And, some medicine is pro-life, but some is not. Some “medical procedures” (such as abortion) are decidedly anti-life. Finally, if getting the COVID “vaccine” is a personal choice that people should pray about, look into, and investigate, why does Franklin Graham think his seal of approval would be compelling? He is literally using celebrity endorsement as his rationale. His celebrity. His purported view of his late father’s celebrity. And, his purported view of Jesus’ celebrity.

Franklin Graham is not a credible evangelist and, in my opinion, he hasn’t given any sound reasoning for his promotion of the COVID shots. My guess is that Graham feels slighted in having not been embraced by the new administration, and wants to find a way to ingratiate himself. (Billy Graham has been heralded as “God’s ambassador to world leaders, and was consulted by the various US presidents once he was a known commodity.) It seems like Graham is being called upon to get his recalcitrant followers to roll up their sleeves.

My advice would be to do your own research on both how to receive eternal life and whether or not the COVID jabs are a good idea for you.

The only credible source for how to have eternal life is the Bible. If you would like to know from the Bible how to have eternal life click here: THE GOSPEL

207 responses to “Lordship Salvation’s Franklin Graham: Samaritan’s Curse

  1. More from Franklin Graham:

    1. Franklin Graham on “vaccine” passports:

    “Right now, a Swedish company has developed a ‘vaccine passport’ chip that is implanted under the skin and can be scanned. It could be required to enter restaurants or businesses, fly commercially, etc.

    I personally do not think this particular chip is the mark the Bible talks about, but it does make you think how close we may be…

    This may sound frightening; but people who have put their faith in God and His Son, Jesus Christ, don’t need to be afraid. We should not live in fear.

    God told us what was coming in His Word. Make sure that your name is written in the Lamb’s Book of Life by repenting of your sins and putting your faith and trust in Jesus Christ.”

    Christianity Daily, December20, 2021

    My comment: the same jabs Graham was pushing are at risk of being used in a way that makes him consider how close we may be to fulfilling biblical prophecy.

    His solution: put your faith and trust in God and His Son, Jesus Christ, and then repent of your sins and put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ?

    Which is it? Does Franklin Graham even know?

    2. Franklin Graham on covid booster shots:


    3. Franklin Graham on why he advocated for the initial round of covid “vaccines,” but has been silent as to the boosters:


  2. William, those are interesting parallels. It’s a shame that more people are not alert to the possibility that their best interests may not be the driving force behind this current effort.

  3. John, Your 3 points really remind me of Revelation 13:16-18. It appears that what’s happening now is a conditioning practice run to gauge compliance levels all over the world.

    1) Take the jab

    2) Encourage others to do the same. It’s for our own “good” and for the “good” of others.

    3) If you refuse, you can’t go to work or school, and you will be fired or denied admission into a school. Think of your mortgage, bills, school loans, medical care, etc.
    Revelation 13:16-18:

    1) Take the mark

    2) Encourage others to take the mark. It’s for our own “good” and for the “good” of others.

    3) If you refuse, you can’t buy or sell and will be terminated.

  4. William, I have also lost much trust in the medical profession, after seeing most primary care physicians stand down in early treatment of Covid. I was also getting e-mails from my provider last year about the health crisis of “systemic racism.” I unsubscribed, and told them they needed to stay in their lane.

    And, like you said, some of the worst deceptive nonsense in the world of professing Christendom winds up on best-seller lists.

  5. William, most people have been beguiled into arguing about the Covid lockdowns/mask orders/jabs with pseudo-scientific blinders on, as well as conferring our collective agency to a disease (eg, Covid caused us to shut-down schools).

    It has seemed like a concerted effort to get people to 1) get the shots; 2) encourage others to get them; and 3) to ostracize/punish those who refuse them.

    I have lost much respect for the medical profession through this, as I was refused treatment until my situation became quite serious.

    As for religious leaders, in my opinion they should have been able to see that this was about more than “public health.”

  6. John, Things have gotten to the point with this covid narrative where I don’t trust too many medical doctors as the vast majority of them are brainwashed and listening to lies and using fear and coercion to influence their patients. I know for a fact that my primary care physician is heading in that direction. It’s the higher up pecking order that is making things very hard and scary.

    I recently learned a lot more by just reading online medical articles coming from reputable medical doctors writing articles in reputable medical journals who give the honest truth. The majority can’t be trusted, but it’s the small percentage that can be trusted.

    As you may know, I recently had prostate surgery because I had to due to prostate enlargement, bladder stones, and inability to pass freely, but other than that, I am hesitant to see any doctor now for anything.

    For example, I recently came across 2 medical research articles verifying that long term usage of acid reducing meds greatly contributes to stomach cancer. One major study was done in Sweden by medical experts in the field and is the largest study ever done which was a nationwide study involving over 700,000 patients in the general public and the other major study was done in Hong Kong involving over 60,000 patients.

    Both studies came to the same conclusion that prolonged use of acid reducing drugs contributes to stomach cancer. Here in the U.S. alone, Americans spend over 10 billion annually on the purchase of acid reducing drugs, including over the counter and prescription strength ones.

    Of course, shortly after the publication of the medical research papers released from Sweden and Hong Kong, a Canadian “research paper” was released from medical authorities in a medical journal criticizing and attacking the Hong Kong study as being “unjustified”.

    Also, around the same time frame, another “research paper” was released by medical authorities in an American journal that is fairly new in its conception questioning the validity of the Hong Kong study.

    It’s noteworthy that ONLY the Hong Kong study was criticized/questioned, but not the Swedish study which leads to suspicion. As stated, BOTH the Swedish and Hong Kong studies came to the same conclusion regarding acid reducing meds.

    I looked through both the “research papers” from Canada and the other one which did the criticizing and questioning which seemed to me to be nothing more than 2 editorials with very few medical references backing up their claims, whereas the Swedish and Hong Kong papers had an extensive list of medical references backing up their research.

    To me, it’s obvious that the 2 papers that criticize and question were written in favor of the pharmaceuticals in their attempt to keep the pharmaceuticals rich and thriving. I mean over 10 billion is made here annually in the U.S. alone on acid reducing drugs. Can you imagine abroad in other countries?

    I’m sure the Swedish and Hong Kong studies would no doubt get censored where “medical authorities” who are in favor of the pharmaceuticals and monetary gain would no doubt steer many of their doctors to only consult with the Canadian and the other less known “research papers” for direction/advice in their dispensing of acid reducing drugs.

    The same is true regarding the gospel. John MacArthur’s book, “The Gospel According To Jesus” released back in 1988 was on the best seller list of Christian books, whereas Zane Hodges book, “Absolutely Free” didn’t make it on the list. In the end, it’s all about listening to lies, giving into fear, and money, but never the truth. People in the church with no spiritual discernment and no common sense would no doubt consult with MacArthur’s book.

  7. LD, I am still seeing comments at MedPage Today,from purported health care professionals, advocating getting the shots to protect others. Of course, it has been evident for quite some time, as even admitted by the CDC, that these shots do not keep one from being able to be infected, or to infect others.

  8. It will be interesting indeed. How far will the nonsense go?
    Be well and safe in Christ Jesus.

  9. John, I’m just very disgusted at the utter lack of spiritual discernment and common sense among true Christians and false “Christians.”

    I heard recently that John MacArthur filed a lawsuit opposing the lockdown of his church where he won and was granted $$money$$, BUT yet at the very same time he encouraged his congregation to take the vaccine. I mean just look at the obvious hypocrisy and contradiction. There’s $$$ made by MacArthur’s win which is obviously for self aggrandizement and for his furtherance of the Satanic “gospel” of Calvinism/Loadship Damnation which he and his cohorts think is the “real gospel” and at the same time there’s $$$ made for Big Pharma by his encouragement for his congregation to get jabbed.

    Does MacArthur not realize that the lockdowns and the vaccines are being pushed by the same people?! Now we have Franklin Graham. Monkey see, monkey do.

    Even true Free Grace believers like Robert N. Wilkin, founder of GES was initially contemplating about taking the Johnson and Johnson “vaccine” until I warned him personally by phone and with a long e-mail with many examples of victims who either died or were permanently injured by the J & J vaccine. I was very shocked and had to call GES and e-mail to warn him. I was also shocked to hear that Shawn Lazar of GES took the jab and then shortly developed a reaction to it, but appears to be fine now.

    MANY of these victims were YOUNG people in their prime when the J&J was rolled out along with the other poisons. If the young are harmed can you just imagine what these “vaccines” will do and have done to the middle aged and the elderly??!! I have a whole compilation of cases over a foot high of victims in their early 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, etc who were permanently harmed or kicked the bucket. Now, we have the babies, young children and the teenagers. Doesn’t that sound like Molech worship?

    Back in the OT era, it was by fire, but now it’s by injection

  10. Now that the new booster targeting the Omicron variant has been approved, it will be interesting to see if Franklin Graham lets us know whether or not we should take it.

    He has a history of promoting a variant from the gospel.

  11. In late October, Franklin Graham praised In-And-Out Burger for fighting COVID vaccine rules in San Francisco. So, it doesn’t seem likely that he will join those pushing mandates.

    I still think that Graham’s advocacy for the COVID “vaccines” was ill-advised, and that his explanation for his position lacked sound reasoning, and was wrapped in a faux WWJD schtick.

    It should be evident to anyone that a medical intervention that relies on lies, coercion, and censorship for its propagation should be approached with extreme caution.

  12. Keith, I wouldn’t be surprised.

    Pastor Taylor used John 6:66 as the heading for his noxious article.

  13. John, I’m waiting for the vaccine to become a sacrament in these “churches”, whereupon these “pastors” to tell people that they are not really saved unless they have the vaccine, quoting James 2:26.

  14. This is the kind of nonsense that people are hearing from their pulpits:

    Sean Taylor, pastor of Chandler Baptist Church in Liberty, Mo.

    What is God’s vision for the church and the vaccine? God’s desire is that Christians would be quickly vaccinated. And also that Christians make every effort to send the vaccines where needed. As the church — rather than arguing with others and among ourselves — God would have us spend time raising funds and reaching out to send more shots to every country in need.

    So, unless your doctor advises against it for health reasons, please get vaccinated. And let people know it was NOT politics. We were vaccinated because we follow Jesus. Because he lives to love the world, so do we!

    My comment: Pastor Taylor presumes to speak for God. He is a disgrace. Who is he to declare this?

    And, this from Pastor Taylor’s blog, regarding the COVID shots:

    What amazes me, the very thing that will save us is being rejected. But this is the story of humanity. We crucify our saviors. Praise be to God He is powerful enough to rise again and give us a second chance. Don’t miss this shot!

    My comment: this charlatan dares compare our Savior Jesus Christ to the COVID shots, and suggests that rejecting Jesus as Savior is like rejecting the COVID shots as savior.

  15. I haven’t heard Franklin Graham, J.D. Greear, or Robert Jeffress weigh in on whether or not they support “vaccine” mandates.

  16. Hey William, thanks. Right. I don’t trust them either. Which is why I took the compound and looked it up myself. I had seen a newspaper article from Canada, and they listed one of the ingredients as a poison.

    One thing I noted in my research is if you tried to find the ingredients, it wasn’t happening. What you did find was all sorts of propaganda declaring the same thing, they were safe and effective.

    I did find an Astra Zeneca box and started there, and then took the listed ingredients, and a friend gave me the excipient list. On the PEG, used in laxatives for say colonoscopy prep, the chemical company (not the vaccine company) says do not inject. The ingestion into the stomach and out the bowels is different. A little amount is not accepted by the body and that is one of the reasons why it is expelled, hence the laxative effect.

    So then there is a third list. But it’s not that I think I have to go that far. My objections for us, my family, and friends, are all pretty similar. Their secretive manner, their dishonesty, their ridicule, coercion, manipulative tactives and even tyranny in this has proven to be not a matter of what may be beneficial, but what is good for them to wrest freedom from us.

  17. I think we have given our readers a lot of information that should make them question the purported “public health” benefits of the things our governments are doing “for us.”

    The contradictions that we can see with the naked eye are numerous, and there is likely so much more going on that we won’t know about, or may never know about in this lifetime.

    I very much appreciate everyone’s contributions to this discussion, and I think we should each continue to take a stand for bodily autonomy, human rights, and government/corporate/media responsibility for actions that harm people and erode their freedoms.

    Having said all of that, I think we have given people enough information to know that they are likely being misled by authority figures, which unfortunately include many pastors and evangelists.

    I would prefer to limit further discussion to highlights of new information (further restrictions on civil liberties), and to the roles of pastors/churches/evangelists in aiding and abetting the dominant narrative and agenda.

  18. Holly,

    The following info is from Vanderbilt University Medical Center on the ingredients in the covid vaccines. You will notice that there is absolutely no mention of “Luciferase”, or “Hydrogel”, but mention of polyethylene glycol and other ingredients.

    Known COVID-19 Contraindications
    As with other vaccines or drugs, allergies to any of the ingredients is a contraindication, or reason not to get a COVID-19 vaccine.

    The known components of vaccines will be added here and updated as we know them.

    Components of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine
    What are the ingredients in the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and are these exact ingredients represented in any other prescription or non-prescription drugs or products?

    This vaccine contains:

    Active ingredient: a nucleoside-modified messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2.

    Inactive ingredients:
    Lipids ((4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate), [(polyethylene glycol [PEG])-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide, 1,2-distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, and 0.2 mg cholesterol),
    Electrolytes potassium chloride, monobasic potassium phosphate, sodium chloride, dibasic sodium phosphate dihydrate, and
    Sugar (sucrose)
    The diluent, added to the vaccine for administration, is saline (Sodium Chloride)
    There are no other vaccines currently on the market that have these exact ingredients.

    The Moderna mRNA vaccine which has not yet received EUA is based on a similar construct with a PEG-2000 lipid delivery system. At this time there are no cases of serious allergic reactions associated with the Moderna vaccine in the reported clinical trial data.

    Polyethylene glycol (PEG2000) is a component of the vaccine and anaphylaxis (severe, life-threatening allergic reaciton) to PEG has been rarely reported with PEG3350 (bowel preparations) and prescription medications such as methylprednisolone acetate (Depomedrol).

    If you think you have had anaphylaxis with one of these products, you should contact occupational health and your primary care physician, who can consult with our allergy service.

  19. Holly,

    I don’t believe those safety data sheets aka “fact sheets” for Pfizer, Moderna, etc, will give you the truth regarding what the real ingredients are. The truth is, there are 3 ingredients in them called “Luciferase” , “Hydrogel”, and polyethylene glycol that are toxic which Dr. Carrie Madej talked extensively about in Pastor Bill Crone’s sermon on covid-19. Dr. Carrie Madej is a Christian physician who has done extensive research into the ingredients used in these “vaccines” and gives the truth about them. This sermon has been banned on YouTube for giving the truth, but you can find it on Rumble.com. The title of Pastor Bill Crone’s sermon is “Covid -19 Update”. Dr. Madej comes on at exactly the 54:14 mark of the sermon where she talks extensively about these ingredients and what they are meant for.

    Also, world renowned epidemiologist, Dr. Harvey Risch from Yale has written a detailed article proving that Hydroxychloroquine coupled with Zithromax, Vitaman D3 and Zinc are effective in treating many covid patients. Dr. Stella Immanuel, of Houston, Texas who is also a Christian physician has healed over 350 covid patients all with great success. Then we have Dr. Brian Tyson of California, who has healed over 1700 patients with covid with great success.

    Of course, Hydroxychlorquine, Zithromax, Vitamin D3 and Zinc have all been bad mouthed by the “medical authorities” who are on the same page with Faux-i as “invalid” and “ineffective” in treating covid. I believe they have gone to great lengths and have written “medical articles” with fraudulent information “debunking” the effectiveness of these proven meds.

  20. Holly, it will be interesting to see what response you will get, if any.

  21. I emailed my husband’s Primary and asked, “are you going to be offering monoclonal antibodies at your office? Thanks.”

    He said no, those have been run through the ER’s for the most part and by IV’s. Then asked if we were ok, and said; Hopefully you’ve been able to get vaccinated. Please let me know if you have any questions though. Jason of course is pretty high risk.

    I told him we were doing fine and believe we had it at the end of 19/20

    Told him I researched extensively on my own, not on some anti-vax site, but I personally looked up the ingredients of 4 vax, Pfizer, Moderna, J & J and AstraZeneca. My late husband died because of chemicals, so I looked up the safety data sheets. Besides the obvious religious issue with the MRC-5 and HEK etc, some of the data in countries like Israel and Gibralter (highly Vaccinated countries), leave me having no interest. The obvious coercion and even forced vaccination is abhorrent to both of us. We will not partake, but appreciate you thinking of us.

    I then offered him my research on the ingredients, which is just a simple outline and a link to the safety data sheets from the chemical companies.

  22. John,

    Thanks. They said they will require us to be tested every week which is fine with me.

  23. William, I am thankful that your department isn’t requiring the shots.

  24. Holly,

    I learned that in my city that the only 2 exceptions to get a person excused from taking the jab is either a medical or religious exemption. Thank God my department is not mandating the vaccine as a condition of employment. If that was the case, I would fight it by first hiring a human rights attorney, but if that failed, then I would either quit or get fired. If I get fired, so be it. No one in his/her right mind would want this poison pumped into their body.

    “Faux-i” is the perfect term for him. He’s the ultimate fraud and liar and he should be named public enemy #1. Anthony FRAUDCI. (Content edited by administrator).

  25. Helen, I agree that they have used actual brainwashing and reverse psychology.

    They use repetitive terms from a script, the ones who realize it have made videos that show pictures of different news commentators regurgitating the same line they were fed.

    Trouble is we realize that not many people feed themselves with His Word. Nor are there many faithful Shepherds that feed or tend the sheep. But we keep doing our part, and we keep praying. Many believers aren’t Bereans with His Word, and aren’t humble enough to hear someone out before they dismiss another out of hand.

    We can only try, and pray. And stand with our armor on.

  26. I notice Faux-i made a comment something to the effect, that he was foreseeing a multitude of vaccine mandates coming out all over. (Must have some options out on the Vaccine stock).

  27. William, that’s really sad. Just think, the people who need the jobs and funding are in search of scientific knowledge, but are willing to park their brains at the door to get it.

  28. John,

    I heard from Kentucky senator Rand Paul that even many of Fauci’s colleagues and other professionals disagree with him and knows that he’s gone off the rails, but are afraid to speak up for fear of loss of their jobs, and for fear of loss of funding. Fauci is in tight control of the funding of many schools, but if anyone were to speak out against him, their names will no doubt be crossed out with no more funding.

  29. William, you could be right. And, they may be afraid to respond to my texts, because they are afraid the tech companies are tracking them, and they don’t want to be on the record for opposing any of the regime’s dictums.

  30. Helen, it seems like only the most gullible of television consumers could believe all of the contradictions. But, people don’t want to take responsibility for thinking for themselves.

  31. So much psychology has been put upon the population, so when the truth faces them they cannot possibly consider thtat they have been lied to. The TV is the virus. If people filled their heads with the Word of God there would be no fear and no more nonsense. It’s so wrong to label you a conspiracy theorist, when the facts are there for anyone to check. I was labelled a conspiracy theorist back in July 2021 for sharing Carrie Madej’s video on the vaccines, but they’re most certainly not vaccines but according ot the UK Gov are biotechnological medicine. When I shared that exact paper with my parter’ sparents, they dismissed as junk. So sad and they are Christians.

  32. John,

    I think your friends are afraid of being ostracized and stigmatized and being labeled as an “antivaxxer” or “conspiracy theorist”. When I tried to share the truth with one of my co-workers she literally snapped at me and implied that I was entrenched in “conspiracy theories”. She is the type of person who just goes along with the narrative that mainstream news media pushes without ever thinking on her own and never asks questions. By the way, she took the jab twice and is fine.

    I’m sure there are a lot of people who are on the same page with Fraudci in accusing and blaming us as antivaxxers and conspiracy theorists and blaming us for the new imaginary “Delta variant.”

  33. William, a thinking ten year old should be able to tell, by this point, that the official narrative doesn’t hold together. It’s the classic “Emperor hs no clothes.” People are being cowed into silence by the big tools of misinformation:

    1. Appeal to “experts”
    2. Bandwagon
    3. Ad hominem attacks
    4. Appeal to emotion
    5. Moving the goalposts

    It’s hard to watch so many people brainwashed, silenced, or a combination of the two. I have friends/acquaintances who seem to understand the truth, but are slow and intermittent in their interactions with me. It’s like they are afraid I’m going to get them in trouble.

  34. Holly,

    The pharmaceuticals achieved total immunity from lawsuits when President Reagan signed into law the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act and the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program back in 1986. Prior to this, many pharmaceuticals were going bankrupt as they were getting sued left and right. They banded together threatening not to produce any more vaccines unless the President signed into law protecting them.

    Fraudci and the CDC has been flip flopping again. Fraudci has been blaming all the unvaccinated for the spread of the new “Delta variant”, but now all of a sudden the CDC director, Rochelle Walensky has announced that it is the VACCINATED that is spreading the new variant. Now, “medical experts” are saying, “Covid-19 infections of vaccinated people are expected. But the unvaccinated are ‘the big highway of transmission.” – CNN Health, August 6, 2021

    My comment – What evidence do they have that all the unvaccinated are the super spreaders of the new variant? Sounds to me that they are using another LIE to produce more fear mongering and panic in an attempt to coerce the unvaccinated to get the jabs. So, why get the jabs when many of the fully vaccinated are getting infected and ending up in the hospital?? It appears that the jabs themselves are causing people to get infected.

    Dr. Michael Yeadon, whose words many believe, including myself, are trustworthy has stated that this new bogus “deadly” Delta variant is no more than .003% different from the original virus, and how people who already have immunity from most of these coronaviruses have absolutely nothing to worry about. Dr. Yeadon calls them “same-iants”.

    This whole covid crisis is indeed a conspiracy and preplanned. Look at the following incriminating statements that Fraudci made back in October 2012 in the American Society for Microbiology journal, Sept/Oct 2012, Volume 3, Issue 5. Fraudci’s article was entitled, “Research on Highly Pathogenic H5N1 Influenza Virus: The Way Forward:

    Fraudci states: “The voluntary moratorium on gain of function research related to the transmissibility of highly pathogenic H5N1 influenza virus should continue”….

    “Putting aside the specter of bioterrorism for the moment, consider this hypothetical scenario, an important gain of function experiment involving a virus with serious pandemic potential is performed in a well regulated, world class laboratory by experienced investigators, but the information from the experiment is then used by ANOTHER SCIENTIST WHO DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME TRAINING AND FACILITIES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE SAME REGULATIONS. In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events, WHAT IF THAT SCIENTIST BECOMES INFECTED WITH THE VIRUS, WHICH LEADS TO AN OUTBREAK AND ULTIMATELY TRIGGERS A PANDEMIC?”

    “Many ask reasonable questions: given the possibility of such a scenario–however remote–should the initial experiments have been performed and/or published in the first place, and what were the processes involved in this decision?”

    Fraudci goes on and states, “Scientists working in this field might say–as indeed I have said–THAT THE BENEFITS OF SUCH EXPERIMENTS AND THE RESULTING KNOWLEDGE OUTWEIGH THE RISKS.”

    My comment – When Fraudci mentioned about “another scientist who does not have the same training and facilities and is not subject to the same regulations”, does that not sound like it would be a scientist from the Wuhan Lab? It has been stated that the Wuhan Lab has a somewhat inferior facility where viruses are susceptible to leakage. In other words, the Wuhan lab is not up to par in regards to safety and security standards. This reminds me of Chernobyl where it was a combination of human error and an inferior facility that was not up to par in regards to safety that resulted in the great nuclear disaster.

  35. I’m hopeful that the truth will come out regarding the origin of this pandemic, the costs vs. purported benefits of the current injections, and other better treatments that may be available, preferably sooner, than later.

    Whatever the motives of people who have the vanity and hubris to think they can order society, it doesn’t seem like it can end well for them, or their victims, if their ambitions are left unchecked.

  36. Oh, and on Epoch Times today, the Department of the Interior admitted, 4000 of them caught covid, and 35 died from it. ALL vaccinated.

  37. William, thanks. I couldn’t ‘quite’ remember when/how it happened, I knew it was in Reagan’s second term. Like JohnWi, I think we all realize that their intent is to lower the population (as they’ve said in so many different ways).

    I’ve heard that TED talk over and over, and people simply say he misspoke. But we know differently. He blatantly states he wants to lower the population, and how gleeful he must be that he can do it while making money on the poison that will do it.

    Fauxi (as I prefer to call him), I believe knew full well that this could lead to another ‘pandemic’ of their own making. As I’m sure you’re aware, the ones getting the ‘new’ variant, are the vaccinated. And if that doesn’t cause issues, then the foreign protein attaching itself to the brain, heart, lungs, ovaries etc., and then turning on itself, will over time. What mad genius. No one could believe such evil. It would have to be a conspiracy. 🙂

  38. Holly,

    The pharmaceuticals can’t be sued as far back as 1986 all thanks to President Reagan. Prior to that pharmaceuticals were getting sued and going bankrupt. Now that they can’t be sued, that gives them no incentive to make their vaccines safe. Bill Gates has stated that his “best investment” is in vaccines which gives him an over.20 to 1 return. He could care less as human lives are expendable in his evil mind. The human population is dropping in numbers as his monetary gain is rising in numbers. Gates and Fauci need to be held accountable and be brought to justice for crimes against humanity.

  39. This is what Bill Gates had to say regarding the worldwide population back in 2010 at a TED Talk, a non profit-organization devoted to spreading ideas. Gates states, “First, we’ve got population, the world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, WE COULD LOWER THAT BY, PERHAPS, 10 OR 15 PERCENT. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3.”

    MY comment – Why would vaccines “lower” the human population when they are supposed to improve and prolong people’s life spans????

    Then we have “Dr.” Anthony Fauci who said that conducting experiments on contagious viruses to increase their potency was WORTH THE RISK, EVEN IF THE WORK COULD “ACCIDENTALLY” LEAD TO A PANDEMIC.”

    MY comment – Lo, and behold.

  40. William, I don’t trust them either. My comment about them saying the vaccines will save lifes was meant to be sarcasm, since they have stated that there main objective is to reduce the population and vaccines were at the top of the list to achieve that objective.

  41. Johninnc,

    I think it’s obvious that the government should not be involved in medical matters. And the medical boards have received complaints against those doctors who don’t agree, from those who seek to herd us the way they want us to go. I remember one doctor in Texas, who had a perfect record his entire career, but they went after him, just for him encouraging treatment (this when there wasn’t even a vaccine).

    I’m afraid this all goes back to the Reagan years in some respects. Pharmaceuticals should be sued, and most especially in light of dishonestly in sharing all the facts transparently.

    Continuing to pray.

  42. Holly, I suppose that the authoritarian streak runs in doctors to at least the same extent as the general public. Combine that now with doctors who speak against the dominant COVID narrative being ostracized, or threatened, and we can expect even less honesty or candor from the medical profession.

  43. Johninnc – I know some who are gullible (regarding the vaccine). They just feel more relieved to let their doctor handle their care, and most trust them. I have never been that way, because as a medical power of attorney, I have caught not only very serious mistakes, but some outright lies and that shocked me. And that was many years ago. I also heard attitudes like we’re hearing now.

    When my dad was in Mayo, they asked him if he ever smoked. He said yes, a little when he was young. My dad smoked a couple times with friends in the Merchant Marines until he found he could get his ‘rations’ and sell them for profit. (He was 16-17). He never smoked again. And he said he probably only ever had a few back then, not even a pack. Now he didn’t explain that to them, just being honest. I had gone out for a minute and heard the doctor nurse talking about him being a smoker and another guy in the room next to him and evidently that guy was a drinker too (who knows based on how they represented them). I cannot remember the words they said, but I’ll just share the idea, which was neither of them deserved to be treated. I was surprised they were calling my dad an ‘ex-smoker’ (because I knew he wasn’t), but I was shocked at their attitudes of ‘they didn’t even deserve to be treated’. I got after them, I don’t remember what, but I said something about obesity, promiscuity, etc., and other things people do to put themselves at risk while judging others, and they were there to take care of them, not judge whether they were worthy.

    I went to a doctor I knew there and told him, because previously he had helped me in another situation with my husband. But this stuff happens all over, and happened to my dad regarding his age. One doctor cursed about me refusing a DNR (yelled, cursed out in the hallway using the f word).

    These are people who have no self-control, who can imagine what’s going on with the ones who are better able to disguise it?

  44. William, the willful blindness extends past the shots and to what is to become of people who won’t go along.

  45. John,

    I think this term about people having covid and being “asymptomatic” is a total LIE. Even Dr. Michael Yeadon who is former chief scientist and vice-president of the allergy and respiratory research division of Pfizer feels the same way.

  46. John,

    It sure is WILLFUL BLINDNESS. Me and my wife warned everyone in her family, but NO ONE LISTENED. They all took the vaccines, but the only 2 people who did not are her parents who are in their 80’s. It’s also tragic that many Christians are compromising.

    I know 2 people in in my workplace who are Christians where I warned them about the dangers of these experimental vaccines. I showed them Christian websites that exposed these vaccines where these websites had case example after case example of people including celebrities (baseball legend, Hank Aaron, boxing legend Marvin Hagler, and T.V. personality Larry King) who died shortly after getting jabbed, BUT she didn’t listen and went ahead and got jabbed twice along with her husband who is also a Christian.

    My other Christian co-worker is starting to lean in the direction of compromise even though I gave her many warnings including the information given by Christian medical doctors like Dr. Carrie Madej and Dr. Simone Gold. She said her mother took the vaccine, but suffered no ill effects and appears to be fine. Her brother who is a missionary also took the vaccine, but appears to be fine. She said based on mother and brother, she feels that the vaccines are “safe.”

    I tried explaining to her that just because her loved ones appear to be fine right now does not mean they will be fine down line, say like 5 years from now. No one knows the long term effects of these experimental vaccines. These vaccines appear to be very tricky where some experience immediate anaphylactic reactions right away including death, some experience it days, weeks, or months later down the line, but some have no side effects or reactions at all.

    It is those who experience no ill effects that develop a false sense of assurance who encourage others to take the jab. From that point on it becomes “monkey see, monkey do”. They reason, “Well, uncle Ralph and cousin Jane took the jabs twice, but are just fine”, we’ll be okay.”

    There’s no discernment, no common sense, no independent thought, no critical thinking, no doing their homework in researching, but “Just Do It”, and don’t ask questions. Many just listen to the lies of mainstream news media without ever questioning it.

  47. Following is a quote from an article entitled “Is Society Regressing Due To The COVID-19 Pandemic?”:

    For the first time in history we can transmit a virus which we have no symptoms from to people who are vaccinated against this same virus. Furthermore, we are told that vaccinated people are not safe from unvaccinated people. The cognitive dissonance is unreal.

    It is now that after 18 months of a carefully constructed “health crisis” that we find ourselves at this point where only the most gullible of mainstream media consumers believe the narratives.

    That is a dangerous thing because when those who have committed fraud have the rock lifted from over them, they are left only with one tool. Force.

    My comment: the choice of the term “gullible” is interesting. It seems more like willful blindness. I don’t really understand how getting “vaccinated” protects people who are already “vaccinated.” I just don’t.

  48. Holly, I saw that video. It was amazing and sad.

  49. Johninnc

    Another friend, a nurse here in this state is quitting as they are forcing all of them to get the vaccine. He stated simply he will find another career.

    I watched an Andrew Dice video (don’t watch many videos) that someone sent, and it was him in San Diego on the beach, getting people to sign a petition to send people to jail that refused it. He said many things without the signing, and I think even he was shocked at a couple of places. Made me sad, as some said, 100% (they should be put in jail).

  50. Hobbs, some of the recent news is slipping out as much as the media and the government is claiming exactly the opposite. For example, 74% of the hospitalized (serious cases) are vaccinated. They weren’t able to censor that obviously. So, maybe he heard. Just keep praying for him. Pray especially that it not have a negative effect on his organs. That was the biggest concern as the foreign spike proteins were not staying in the arm, and lodging elsewhere in the body. Then those proteins that had multiplied, were going to attack that spike protein. This is why people have had heart damage, brain damage, kidney, lung, etc. God bless him and you too.

  51. John, Rights being replaced by ‘privileges’, yep, see what you’re saying. A slippery slope indeed.

  52. Hobbs, whatever a person’s medical decision about the shots, it is their political decision about the shots that has the potential to make slaves of us all.

    That is, if someone gets the shots, they should refuse to go along with getting registered with their employers, going for the “key to the kingdom pass,” signing up for special travel privileges, etc. Otherwise, they are availing themselves of all of the privileges that the shots afford them at the expense of people who choose not to get the shots.

    If people were just getting the shots for their health, and not for access to all of the goodies that go along with it, that would be fine. But, the more people that go along with this new system, in which our rights are replaced by privileges, the more marginalized those who don’t go along with it will be. The people that have put this tyrannical nightmare in place are getting increasingly DEMANDING that everyone participates.

  53. Holly, seems it was a coincidence with my brother’s silence, we appear to be back to the usual inane banter! :’)

  54. Holly, yeah my bro is probably concerned for me, but he may also be annoyed thinking we’re less likely to meet up due to him having a prexisting condition that makes him more vulnerable to infection etc. Yes I should be clear of my own position though it can be hard to get a word in edgeways when people have been set, perhaps through too much MSM, and just dismiss your doubts out of hand. Hence his comment ‘just get it done’. The vaxxed don’t want to countenance that there could be something nefarious in/of the vaccine and the un-vaxxed don’t want to be wrong either. Human nature, we don’t like our ‘comfy sureties’ upset so we close shop, I’m guessing.

  55. Praying with you all that the evil being done to workers across this country if they don’t accept a forced jab will be crushed by God’s mighty hand, through good attorneys that care and lawsuits that will be won and make a lasting impression that will make all employers see that this is illegal (against the constitution and human rights) and they must stop doing this. I also pray that the evil in our government will not be able to force all citizens to have the jab.

  56. William

    Praying with John for you and your colleagues in this courageous stand for the truth. Praying for the courts to see it the same way. Praying for wisdom for the attorney, and funding and publicity. I know Tucker has been doing an awful lot, but I haven’t heard him do an article yet on the people in Medicine who were the heroes previously, now being forced to get an experimental drug or lose their livelihood. What an ungrateful country that we would stand by and stay silent, regardless of our convictions on taking it or not taking it.

    I don’t know if you are fundraising or doing any public awareness events on this, but please let me know, would be happy to promote or help in any way.

  57. William, yes, I’m familiar with those doctors and more like Dr. Zev Zelenko, but especially this group. Thankful and praying for all of them who are standing for freedom, for truth in these treatments to get out, and for ears to hear that no matter your choice, forced vaccination is exactly what we saw in Nazi Germany. It’s wickedness and tyranny. It saddens me so many are running towards the flames in this lifetime and most especially the next.

  58. Hobbs – I’m really very sorry about your brother and how I’m sure it effects you. I think some of them mean well. Having information ready to answer why you just have to say no, is a good thing to prepare.

    I am very thankful for the fact that all my kids know to check for themselves. I pray none will be pressured by what I feel are illegal, unethical and immoral tactics. I pray American’s eyes are opened in general to the erosion of our Constitution. Not by a virus, not even just because people will not do their own research, but because of unscrupulous men and women using it for personal gain with what I believe are wicked intents.

    That said, the good news is that our Lord comes. Maranatha. He’s coming again for us in the clouds. And He’ll shut us in His chambers while He comes out in indignation/wrath against those who dwell on the earth. For the main purpose of fulfilling the last 7 years of Daniel’s prophecy, to purge the rebels of Israel, and to finally bring His people into their Promised land (all of it). And then both His flocks will finally be together in eternity.

  59. William. I will pray that you will receive justice in this.

  60. John,

    I’m getting ready to do what Houston Methodist Hospital employees including doctors and nurses did. They either got fired or quit. There were about 153 employees who refused the jab. They are still in the process of dealing with this in court.

  61. William, it’s all very sad.

  62. John,

    It’s become utter insanity. Recently, in Orange county, California, the public school superintendent was trying to mandate vaccines for little children WITHOUT parental consent, but thank God human rights attorney, Leigh Dundas spoke up blasting that attempt. The school superintendent has since backed off.

    Then in Toronto, Canada in Nathan Philips Square, a pop up vaccine clinic was encouraging teenagers age 12 through 17 to get vaccinated without parental consent in exchange for free ice cream. ????!!!!!!!

    The parents went there and protested, but were up against a wall of police. In my department they have stated that the only way to be exempt from the vaccine is to get a medical or religious exemption. I see other possibilities down the line: get fired, get fined, or get jail time. Insanity!

  63. William, that is very sad. I have heard similar stories a bunch of times. The masks are dehumanizing, and I’ve seen no compelling evidence that they do any good. Forcing people to get these shots as a condition of employment is coercion.

    If most people said “no,” then the tyrants would lose their power. The more people that say “yes,” the more power has been given to the tyrant. And, history has proven, time and again, there is no appeasing tyrants.

    I have prayed for you.

  64. John,

    My employer is giving me and my co workers until August 31 to let them know whether we have been jabbed yet or not and mandated that we wear masks whether vaccinated or not.

  65. William, I have watched most of those. And, I agree that Rand Paul has both taken a stand for liberty.

  66. William, maybe so.

    I have a challenge for anybody who got the shots, but says they are for personal choice: refuse to tell your employer that you have gotten the shots; refuse to sign up for the “special privileges” that we used to call “rights”; refuse to use your shot records to travel, etc. Otherwise, you are making life harder for people who object to the shots.

  67. John,

    Have you watched any of the videos where Kentucky Senator Rand Paul had many fiery exchanges with “Dr.” Fauci where Senator Paul exposes Fauci to be a blatant liar? Senator Paul is one of the few men of truth and integrity. Our world needs more men like him.

  68. John,

    I think Franklin Graham would do both.

  69. I wonder if Franklin Graham will join our government officials in their push for “keys to the city,” “Excelsior Passes” and the like?

    Or, will he just focus on his false gospel for now?

  70. Holly, yes the ‘it’s too late’ mantra sounds so much like a scaremongering tactic. As you say, ‘why would it be too late, we recover and maybe reconsider’. That’s awful what they did with your son when you clearly didn’t approve. My brother has sent me some blunt texts lately ‘Get your jabs, bro’ and ‘Just get it done’. Not that he’s ever been a man of many words, but we often joke around in our texts, then suddenly this. Not sure if he’s even cooled-off a bit from texting altogether recently, though it may just be a coincidence. ‘Don’t be afraid…’ yes, I have found myself overreacting to general body ailments more so in recent years, not just over this. I was in a similar anxious state when I found the ‘What Is Grace’ article on here. So glad to discover that free gift really, really, really means FREE GIFT!

  71. Hobbs

    It seems the ‘it would be too late by then’ is a typical mantra some of these doctors have been conditioned to use.

    If we just stop and think for a moment, we ask this question. Why would it be too late? We recover and maybe reconsider. Plenty who have had it have taken the shot.

    We are of a sound mind. So we can look at information and think and ask questions, similarly to how we look at Scripture. We pray about it. I’ve never been anti-vax, just pro-informed. I encouraged my children to be the same, especially in light of the large increase in vaccinations, and the same kind of push to get kids to take shots that have to do with making them believe they’ll be safe from cancer, herpes, etc.

    Taking choice out of the patient’s hands is not medicine. And it’s not science either. As John rightly pointed out, you don’t really have two groups to look at.

    Israel has maybe shown a little more concern and honesty although still seeming to cover for the Pharma groups. That’s the problem with Government making these deals and being stakeholders in these vaccines. There is heavy motivation for money. That ethical violation should concern people at the very least.

    Israel came out in July and dropped the 94% efficacy down to the 60s. And dropped it again recently, but said the ‘most serious’ cases were the unvaccinated. However, their own information shows people in the hospital, the huge majority (in every single age group) were vaccinated. Basically if 1 out of every 4 citizens is unvaccinated (1 UV, 3V), then why is there 5 and 6 times the vaccinated in the hospitals?

    Something doesn’t add up. I am a wait and see person more as I get older. And I’ve seen how the vaccination has changed my son Adam’s state. He doesn’t barely speak at all now. If I can get him to speak, it is to say ‘no’ a lot. I did not agree to the V, in fact I was very vehement and spoke to many after they ‘accidentally through miscommunication’ gave him the first shot. And they ‘accidentally’ gave him the second one. These are not accidents. They had no signed approval, and no taped approval from me at all. In fact they had the opposite and I am his guardian. But this is what we’re looking at. Pray without ceasing. Do not be afraid…

  72. William, thanks for the additional info.

  73. John,

    You’re welcome. Many Christian physicians have come forward and stated that many of the covid deaths occurred because the medical authorities (Fauci, etc) gave the order to ban the use of Hydroxychloroquine where many physicians were threatened to lose their jobs if they prescribed this proven drug.

    Dr. Simone Gold, Dr. Stella Immanuel, Dr. Brian Tyson and many others can all attest to the fact that Hydroxychloroquine is a proven treatment for covid 19 when treated early. Dr. Immanuel has treated over 350 patients with covid with great success and zero deaths. Dr. Tyson has treated over 1700 patients with great success and zero deaths.

  74. William, thanks for the info.

    It’s so sad to see all of these authoritarian measures being introduced.

  75. John and Holly,

    The few people who are sounding the warning in Christendom today regarding these dangerous and deadly vaccines are a group of Christian doctors named “America’s Frontline Doctors” and this includes Dr. Simone Gold, Dr. Stella Immanuel, Dr. Carrie Madej, Dr. Brian Tyson, etc.

    Dr. Simone Gold is a Christian doctor and attorney who founded America’s Frontline Doctors who was fired from her job after revealing the truth about these “vaccines”. She was also arrested after she and a group of doctors went to Washington D.C. sounding the alarm. There are other Christian doctors who have been maligned and shunned by their peers and co-workers after speaking out and giving the truth.

    We also have Free Grace Pastor Brandon Holthaus of Rock Harbor Church who has been sounding the alarm as well and has been kicked off of YouTube. Mainstream news media has been going any which way possible to censor those who tell the truth from a Biblical perspective.

    In my city, the authorities have already mandated that ALL city employees be vaccinated or lose their jobs. This in my opinion is clearly medical tyranny and government overreach. Many restaurants, bars, etc, are starting to implement this where customers who want to dine indoors are required to show proof of vaccination. I have personally seen several churches in my city who have turned into vaccine clinics. The amount of people standing in line waiting to be vaccinated is just insane.

  76. yerbae, ‘

    I don’t trust a word coming from the FDA, the CDC, WHO, Anthony Fauci, and Bill Gates and his associates. They are all on the same page in regards to this urgent pushing of these “vaccines.” In short, they are lying through their teeth.

  77. William, Dr. Yeadon is very believable and obviously ‘was’ respected, until he balked at the establishment and spoke what I believe is the truth.

    Another doctor, I ‘think’ was Dr. Lee Merritt who used to do bio-medical warfare in one of the armed services and was the head of one of the large medical associations. She is one of several that go so far as to say it is being weaponized. I don’t know what they are doing, I do know I do not trust them after just my own research. I do not know what they will do in order to force us, but I imagine it won’t be good. So I keep speaking against it, praying each time I see these evil men that their plans would be foiled and their wicked intentions returned upon their own heads while they have their murderous plans in mind.

  78. Chas – grrrrr (regarding your doctor). So frustrating they are willing to either ignorantly spout untrue facts or simply lie about those facts. They know people have died unless they have really had their heads in the sand.

  79. William, yeah, the push is really on, no matter what evidence comes out.

  80. John,

    In regards to the Covid shots, so far tens of thousands of people have died after taking either the 1st or 2nd dose, and tens of thousands have ended up in the hospital ICU permanently damaged and suffering from severe anaphylactic side effects. Then we now have tens of thousands of people testing positive and getting infected AFTER getting fulling vaccinated.

    In spite of all this, the medical authorities are still maintaining the narrative that the vaccines are “95% safe” and “effective”, but reality proves otherwise. I have a whole compilation of cases on paper that is over a foot high which is just the tip of the iceberg. Think about it. If Biden is now ordering his subordinates to go knocking door to door, then we know something is dreadfully wrong.

    I mean why didn’t they ever go door to door knocking for the flu vaccine and all other vaccines???

  81. yerbae’ and William, it’s impossible to know with certainty what motivates would be world planners like Gates and Schwab. I do not give them the benefit of the doubt in having good intentions.

    I think it is likely that we are seeing an attempt to institute a tyrannical, coordinated, technocracy, laying the table for one world government and the antichrist’s economic system.

    I am not sure the COVID shots are intended to be a mass extinction event, but I can’t rule that out.

    Meanwhile, I am astonished that so few in the world of professing Christendom are sounding any warning about the mounting authoritarianism, but are instead joining in the effort, a la Franklin Graham and J.D. Greear.

  82. John,

    These so called “vaccines” are not vaccines…As you may already be aware, this whole worldwide vaccination program is being funded by Bill Gates under his “Global Alliance For Vaccination and Immunization”. Bill Gates is a eugenicist who believes in depopulation and monetary gain and is not a medical doctor and has no medical background whatsoever…

    Gates has stated that his best investment ever is in “vaccines” which brings him an over 20 to 1 return. Even Dr. Michael Yeadon, who was Pfizer’s former Vice President and Chief Scientific Officer of the Allergy and Respiratory Research division feels that these “vaccines” are being used for evil. Yeadon states, “For example, if someone wished to harm or kill a significant proportion of the world’s population over the next few years, the systems being put in place right now will enable it. It’s my considered view that it is entirely possible that this will be used for MASSIVE-SCALE DEPOPULATION.” (emphasis mine) –

    Many believe that this is in preparation for the “Great Reset” in ushering in the new One World Government leading to the Anti-Christ…

    Gates is also one of the main funders of the “Stratospheric Controlled Perturbation Experiment” which aims at blocking the sun’s rays in an effort to prevent “global warming” by releasing massive amounts of calcium carbonate and other dangerous substances into the upper atmosphere. Many critics and environmental scientists have termed this to be a “global genocidal experiment.”

    Gates has also partnered up with MIT in the development of technology that allows “vaccines” to be injected under the skin called the “Quantum Dot Tattoo” which would implant an invisible certificate with one’s medical record that can be scanned by authorities using a cell phone app along with infrared light. Gates states, “Eventually we will have a certificate of who’s a recovered person, who’s a vaccinated person, and eventually there will be “digital immunity proof.” In other words, a “vaccine passport” that would only allow those who have it to board passenger planes, ships, etc, but without it a person would be banned. Does this not sound like an early element of Revelation 13:16??? Right now, there are cities here in the U.S. that won’t allow a person to board public transportation unless one wears a mask.

    The EPA (Environmental Protection Agency) recently approved an experiment permit to Oxitec in an “effort to fight malaria” where millions of genetically modified mosquitos are released in various U.S. states. Oxitec is funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and according to the NIH (National Institutes of Health) website program, this is to allow human immunization by mosquito bites. “Science Magazine” calls it “Flying syringes.”

    As you look at all these “vaccination programs” that is being funded and pushed by Bill Gates in the past and present and his funding of experiments, does it not sound obvious that the motive behind all this is depopulation by mass genocide?

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  83. What I find interesting, is both Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates, who both want to reduce the world population, have said that vaccines, along with a list of other things, will play a part in REDUCING the population. I thought vaccines were suppose to save lives, at least that’s what they are telling us at this time.

  84. This morning, Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York made an appeal to businesses in New York to require COVID vaccinations as a condition to entry, and recommended they use the “Excelsior Pass” to expedite the enforcement of that requirement.

  85. Hobbs, I know a lot of people who have taken the shots, and a lot who haven’t. One person I know had positive antibodies from a previous infection, but her employer insisted on her receiving the shots as a condition for coming into the office, and her doctor advised her to get the shots.

    I’m not sure what is motivating all of the strong-arm tactics for trying to get everyone to take the shots. It is very instructive to see how the governors and public health officials who have made ALL of the COVID policy decisions over the past 17 months are quick to place blame for any lack of success on their citizens.

    Setting aside possible more nefarious motives, let’s suppose the shots end up causing more health problems than they solve. If that were to happen, the officials who pushed these shots would not want the public to find out.

    If a substantial percentage of people refuse the shots, there will be a large control group that will provide for comparisons of long-term outcomes between the jabbed and the un-jabbed. However, if nearly everyone gets the shots, any adverse health impacts from the shots could be attributed to something else (new pathogens, etc.).

  86. Yeah, I’ve held off so far but wouldn’t say I’m anti, more open-minded, waiting for more evidence of what they are. I booked my jabs the other day as I panicked when I was unwell recently (aware I would be told it was ‘too late for all that’ had I ended up in hospital). But ‘cos I recovered ok I cancelled again. Something of an emotional rollercoaster all this.

  87. Chas, that’s pretty sad. Not only that, but to equate not wanting the COVID jans as being “anti-vaccine” is also wrong.

  88. When I was in to see my “regular” doctor for a checkup recently, he asked if I’d “been vaccinated”. I said, “Y’know Doc, I’d rather not enlist in that experiment just yet.” He says, “Well, it’s 92% effective, nobody’s died from it…” (This was a couple months ago.) I said, “Oh, thousands of people have died from it, Doc.” He says, “Well, since it appears you’re anti-vaccine…” and so on. I was really appalled that he would be so un-informed. Just accepts the company line.

  89. chas, yeah, I kind of see it the same way.

    Unfortunately, people look to their doctors for objective medical advice, and not all doctors are objective.

  90. Sounds like this Tomi Mitchell person is just another MD bent on using her medical “credentials” for leverage in leftist political activism. There’s no getting through to people like her with science.

  91. Here’s a comment on the other article I saw, regarding systemic racism she says she has experienced:

    Mitchell says she is in the process of making multiple complaints against the SHA and the College of Physicians for her treatment within the medical system. As a practising physician, she fears reprisals from speaking out and levying numerous complaints.

    “What more can they do to me?” she mused. “I’m fed up with this BS.”

  92. Johninnc

    Tomi Mitchell has spoken at Black Lives Matter protests and also spoke on her bad treatment in a hospital being based on racism (saw not one example where she could point out racism in her whole story).

    I am concerned about the ‘but’s’ when it comes to our freedoms. Who are they to decide over other doctors? Yes, it is virtue signaling and her motives are very suspect.

    As you said, what was their misinformation is fact today. However I’d like to add that what they tried to suppress and censor over and over again and call ‘disinformation’ was fact all along.

    She salutes her fellow healthcare workers as if they’re all on her side? She’s not saluting the ones who are protesting about being forced to be injected I imagine. Those are likely the ones ‘leaving their jobs in droves.’ They are fed up with their ‘woke’ distorted minds and darkened hearts.

    I know you know this. But they aren’t afraid. They are far more organized unfortunately in their own disinformation campaign. I saw a collage of screenshots today of people on twitter, all saying the same thing. Same Script and it was apparent they were likely all fake accounts ‘reporting’ how awful it was in the hospitals.

    However, I keep praying with you and others to expose and foil these people. I’m praying for justice.

  93. I’m sad but not surprised by your friend. Well, maybe a touch, atheists tend to be into facts and are typically intelligent in this world as a whole, even though fools when it comes to the gospel.

    Our government and the media are colluding, the proof is there for anyone to see.

    The CDC is alarmed? For how long? Until they cover it up and say they misspoke? I’ve seen that happen in a couple of different incidents.

  94. There is a new MedPageToday opinion piece entitled “Join Me in the Fight Against COVID-19 Misinformation
    — Do the right thing for society” by Tomi Mitchell, MD.

    I am going to provide some quotes, and my responses. The point to this is that many of us have become accustomed to trust our doctors for medical advice. But, as this opinion piece and many others like it indicates, your doctor may be a fascist in a white coat!

    Following are some extensive excerpts:

    The COVID-19 vaccine naysayers are from all walks of society, from the uneducated to healthcare professionals. I think it’s fair to say that our civil liberties and part of our belief in freedom of choice will be the downfall of this nation. I am a believer in freedom of choice, but not at the expense of the greater good of society.

    My comment: “I am a believer in freedom of choice, but…” is a slippery slope. In this case, as you will see from further excerpts, the rough translation is “I believe in freedom of choice, provided that people make the choices I think they should.”

    What I see right now is pure insanity and selfishness.

    My comment: calling other peoples’ actions “selfish” is virtue signaling. It means “if you do what I want you to do, or what I have done, you are not selfish in the same way that I am not selfish. Otherwise, you are selfish.

    I am writing this letter as a plea. I am begging that authorities use the power that has been bestowed on them to protect society for the greater good.

    My comment: her plea is to public officials to further curtail, and perhaps to eliminate, civil liberties, such as freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, and so on.

    We need to review the concept of civil liberties. I believe that extreme extenuating situations such as this pandemic should put civil liberties on the back burner.

    My comment: Ah, here it is. The direct appeal to take away more of your liberties.

    Our society is more educated, and has more technology and access to new research, but this is not translating into action and policymaking.

    My comment: This translates into “we have more, smarter people. That should translate into more “enlightened governance,” in which those smart people get to preside.”

    As long as we continue to battle with misinformation, ignorance, and frankly, selfishness, this pandemic will rage on.

    My comment: What was “misinformation” last week is “fact” today. What is the good doctor’s plan to “battle with misinformation”? More censorship. And, here we go again with the “selfishness” and its implicit virtue signaling.

    I salute my fellow healthcare workers. I know you are exhausted. I know that you likely feel taken advantage of by society and feel angry, which is more than warranted.

    Healthcare workers are leaving their jobs in droves.

    My comment: Translation: “if you don’t do what I say, I’m going to take my ball and go home.”

    I decided to use my privilege as a physician to speak boldly for those who were too afraid. I am a mother who loves her children more than my life, and I will do anything within my power to make sure their future is protected. I have been a consistent voice of reason during this pandemic, and frankly, I will not stop.

    My comment: your privilege as a physician doesn’t give you permission to suspend my civil rights. And, who has been “too afraid” to speak up for your brand of fascism? We see it everywhere we turn. And, we know you won’t stop until our rights are gone. That is what is so terrifying. That, and the fact that you are a monster, hiding behind a white coat!

    There was a similar opinion piece in the same publication, just two days earlier, entitled “Roll Up Those Sleeves or Stay Home
    — People have a civic responsibility to get the COVID vaccine if they want public privileges”
    by Sarah C. Hull, MD, MBE, and Arthur L. Caplan, PhD

    I will only provide one quote from that opinion piece:

    A vaccination mandate would of course require a thoughtful framework in order to carefully delineate rights versus privileges, eliciting input from a diverse group of stakeholders to ensure proper participation and enforcement.

    My comment: (sarcasm) why not just change the name of “The Bill of Rights” to “The Bill of Privileges”?

    None of this is meant to be a blanket condemnation of the medical profession. It is simply a warning that wolves in sheep’s clothing are everywhere – including in white coats.

  95. Holly, this just in from MedPageToday:

    “CDC Alarmed: 74% of Cases in Cape Cod Cluster Were Among the Vaxxed
    — More detail about outbreak in vaccinated people that led to the change in masking, test guidance”

  96. Holly, I know – which is why it will never be picked up by our evil, corrupt governments and their media handmaidens.

  97. Holly, it kind of seems like almost everyone has turned off their hearts and minds to all truth.

    I shared the rabbi’s comments with my atheist friend, who snarked “maybe you have a second career as a rabbinical critic.” I shared the actual passages with him, but he was completely dismissive. So many are hiding behind “credentialism,” even when confronted with incontrovertible proof they are wrong.

  98. Johninnc:

    I read your post (appreciative for the detail) and thought, “Who is this Dr. Michael Laitman?” I had to look him up. I saw he was a rabbi and thought what a foolish man. I marveled that he could even begin to speak of ‘black and white’ regarding the ‘spiritual law’. I realize he is not a believer, so it would explain his lack of spiritual eyes or trembling regarding His Word (Is 66:2). Maybe it will change for him later if he leaves to see the time God will turn His attention back to Israel in Daniel’s 70th week.

    The Ex 21:19 interpretation was another WOW to me as it was to you. A classic example of twisting God’s Word like Satan. I agree with you completely, this has to do with the one who hurt this person being fully responsible to make sure they’re nurtured back to health.
    This attitude regarding the weather, the plagues, the air, the water, etc. is how the antichrist will operate isn’t it? No, man may act, believe and claim they can control these things but they are deceived by the god of this age.
    I’m surprised Newsmax had him speak. I didn’t go too far, other than looking up his name, but not surprised he is into the Kabbalah. I believe the latter part of your statement is what we are looking at — …or is a master of deception.

  99. Johninnc

    Going to the Israel Ministry of Health is even more up to date than the Jerusalem post. What they are finding for the 60+ people is that there is absolutely no efficacy at all. (That would be the ‘why’s’ of the recommendation). Sadly, many are still getting it, and more of them are vaccinated. The ones dying are a concerning matter. On Laura Ingraham last night (don’t normally watch it but Jason wanted to see some portion), there was a doctor on there who gave the numbers. Who was getting it, who was ending up in the hospital and who was dying. The last number, the largest majority, far larger than the 58%, the people dying were the vaccinated. That is what matched up with what I’ve seen on some of the graphs that have been shared on Twitter.

  100. Holly Garcia Held

    You wondered if Franklin Graham supports vaccine passports to be able to participate in life. I would imagine so. I don’t think Graham has ever spoken of end times. I wonder if he’s even aware. I do know his sister has, and yet, she is mixed up in more of the Ann Voskamp, Mark Batterson Circle maker etc. error. So, I don’t think he’d put two and two together in His deception. He’d likely include that in the Good Samaritan’s travels…

  101. I apologize for the length of this post, but it is highly-instructive as to the kinds of deception being used against us! Talk about misinformation…

    I saw this doozy on Newsmax from a Dr. Michael Laitman, whose slogan is “TO CHANGE THE WORLD – CHANGE MAN.”

    “I dwell among my own people” (2 Kings 4:13) — a statement that means: I am part of the society I live among, and I share the public’s frame of mind. If the vaccine is acceptable to most people and recommended by health officials, then I must go out and get vaccinated. I do not disengage from the people and do not consider myself more of an expert than the experts.”

    I believe Dr. Laitman is mistaken in his interpretation of that passage, which has to do with the subject of the passage being blessed with a child.

    Dr. Laitman goes on: “The sages wrote to us in black and white about a spiritual law,”It was taught in the school of Rabbi Ishmael about the verse, ‘He shall cause him to be thoroughly healed’ (Ex. 21:19). From this we learn that permission has been given to the physician to heal.” (Babylonian Talmud, Berachot, 60a). The supreme force of nature heals through a representative within society, the doctor.”

    Wrong! This has to do with the responsibility of someone who has wrongfully injured someone else in a fight to do everything in his power to restore that person to full health.

    Here is how Dr. Laitman concludes his nonsensical article: If we make a change for the better in society — if we become a more supportive, loving, considerate, close, healthy society — then physical medicine will also change for the better. But it will never happen the other way around. Medicine will not change for the better until we change.

    Then, in every area and every situation in our lives, when we become more corrected, our world will also be more corrected. The plagues will disappear, the air will be cleansed, the water will clear, volcanoes will calm down, hurricanes and other hard forces will subside.

    It all depends on our inner state, on our relationships with one another.

    My comment: Mankind as the savior of the world is not biblical.

    The reason I point all of this out is to show that “religious experts” of all (s)tripes are being trotted out to mislead people. They are counting on the slothfulness of readers to take them at their word, and to not read it for themselves.

    This is Dr. Laitman’s online biography:

    Michael Laitman is a global thinker living in Israel. Laitman has a PhD in Philosophy and Kabbalah and an MS in Medical Bio-Cybernetics. He is a prolific writer who has published over 40 books, which have been translated into dozens of languages. He is a sought-after speaker and has written for or been interviewed by The New York Times, The Jerusalem Post, Huffington Post, Corriere della Sera, the Chicago Tribune, the Miami Herald, The Globe, RAI TV, and Bloomberg TV, among others. Laitman’s message is simple: Only through unity and connection can we solve all of our problems, be they personal or global, creating a better world for our children. Dr. Laitman teaches live daily lessons to an audience of some two million people worldwide, simultaneously interpreted into English, Spanish, Hebrew, Italian, Russian, French, Turkish, German, Hungarian, Farsi, Ukrainian, Chinese, and Japanese.

    My comment: Dr. Laitman either lacks rudimentary reading comprehension skills, or is a master of deception.

  102. I saw a terrifyingly authoritarian opinion piece on MedPageToday.com. entitled “Roll Up Those Sleeves or Stay Home.”

    Chilling quote: “A vaccination mandate would of course require a thoughtful framework in order to carefully delineate rights versus privileges, eliciting input from a diverse group of stakeholders to ensure proper participation and enforcement.”

    My comment: Maybe we could just change the name of “The Bill of Rights” to “The Bill of Privileges.”

  103. Holly, the studies from Israel seem to point in a different direction than what we are being told. The Jerusalem Post ran an article about 143 hospitalized people that included the following quote:

    “Of the 143 hospitalized patients, 58% were vaccinated, 39% were not at all, and 3% were partially vaccinated. Fifteen of the 20 people who died this month were fully vaccinated.”

    And, Haaretz just issued an article entitled “Israeli Health Ministry Panel Recommends Third COVID Shot for Older People.” The article says “most experts on the committee argue for a COVID booster shot for Israelis 60 and above as the delta variant spreads.”

    And, I also just read that Houston Medical says that 20% of their hospitalized patients have been fully-vaccinated. So, this “epidemic of the unvaccinated” is looking increasingly inaccurate.

    So, there is at least some conflicting information to the claim that the vaccines prevent serious illness. It seems more likely that, if they do, their effectiveness wanes after a few months.

    I have prayed for God to thwart the plans of the evildoers who have stolen our freedom. I have to wonder if He is confounding and confusing their plans, or if it is just rank incompetence on the part of our corrupt government and their public health minions.

  104. Holly, I wonder if Franklin Graham also supports vaccine passports for his “flock” being able to participate in life?

    His comment is disgusting.

  105. Today in Newsweek, lordshipper Franklin Graham said this:

    “For me as a Christian, it’s very easy for me to support the vaccine,” Graham, the CEO of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association and of Samaritan’s Purse, told CNN during a Sunday interview. “Because as a Christian, Jesus Christ came to this Earth to save life.”

    Wow, just wow. Sickened he would compare His gift of eternal life with a shot saving us.

  106. Johninnc

    I keep praying people will start to listen to other than their typical MSM, I know the Lord can do anything. Just frustrating to see believers succumb. When my husband comes back from a doctors visit (like today), he has a couple more talking points from the doctor even though he basically knows better, seems like for a moment, he feels like they could be right. Thankful he doesn’t listen to MSM.

    So we talked through what the doc ofc. had told him. We talked about Fauci admitting both vaccinated and unvaccinated had the same amount of virus in their nasal passages. The CDC director completely contradicting Fauxi and also her own site, and either lying or not being aware of their own numbers (Flu vs. Corona in children).

    I wonder if your grace friend listens to anything other than the MSM? We know that he will not see a balanced presentation there.

    I think the regular citizens somehow think they’re helping the cause, and oddly they are, just the wrong cause. They’ve watched the people on the news talk about “shame on you who spread ‘misinformation’”, so much like how Satan works through the false teachers or deceived (accusing others of the very thing they are doing).

    We have to keep speaking about this, praying about it, and continue to be informed for our family’s sake. I thank God none of my family has taken it. I pray it will stay the same. I’ve been pleased to hear the same attitude from cousins and other family.

  107. Holly, I think the political people are mostly all in on it, when push comes to shove. They want to stay in the mix, and the people who provide most of the campaign money likely call most of the shots.

    What I don’t get is all of the regular citizens who spend so much time and energy parroting the MSM talking points. It’s almost like some of the slogans you read about in futuristic novels like “Brave New World.”

  108. Holly, I don’t know what it will take to wake people up. It’s almost as if they take pleasure in believing lies.

    I have a friend who is a phd in math. He professes to be an atheist, or agnostic. I’ve been arguing about all of this with him since the outset, but he just doesn’t seem to get it.

    I have another friend who seems to be clear on grace, but who thinks we have to pull out all of the stops to eradicate the coronavirus. In his case, he is married to someone who is a non-practicing Roman Catholic, who consumes enormous quantities of MSM programming, and I think having that on in his house all day has influenced him.

    Both of these people are aware that our government customarily lies to us, but they just don’t seem to think our government would lie to them about this.

    It just seems as if people are hypnotized, or brainwashed.

  109. Johninnc

    Reading your last comment and shaking my head. They’ve already come out and admitted the PCR does not deviate between the flu and the C19 or common cold. Not that they don’t have a way to do it, but that was not how the test was designed (even the designer admitted this quite awhile back).

    The PCR test shows immune activity against a range of organisms including both SARS-Cov2 as well as influenza. And it shows an immune response, but I’m sure you know all this. So who had the flu last year? Supposedly basically no one. And we know all pneumonia was listed as C19. Because of the immune response? This is all really malevolent, reminds me of the wolves, just waiting to savage the sheep, fleece the flock, line their pockets. And they’re smart enough to wear the sheep’s clothing (like that doctor on MedPage) — or at least that’s how I view her in light of her comments.

    I’m really praying people might just consider alternate information to the one they’ve so easily swallowed. In light of the new boosters they are just salivating to roll out and the imminent threat of closing us down again, people need to be wise (I sure hope people say NO!).

  110. Johninnc,

    What is astounding to me, is are they lying all the time? Repeating what they’ve been told? Just totally foolish? Or are they all in on it?

    They know the vaccinated can spread it. Here is what I observe from a perspective that doesn’t really understand the internet. Whether FB or Twitter, I am seeing these ‘nice individuals’ showing up to give helpful info on a post. One claimed to be a microbiologist, but just a little search showed her to be someone who worked at Walmart (not at all criticizing working anywhere). She just wasn’t what she claimed to be. Anyways, I’m starting to recognize myself there is a huge effort here to make people take this and I do not believe it’s benevolent.

  111. The CDC updated its mask guidance today. Following is a direct quote:

    “When earlier strains of the virus predominated, infected vaccinated people were found to have low levels of virus and were deemed unlikely to spread the virus much, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said. But with the delta variant, the level of virus in infected vaccinated people is “indistinguishable” from the level of virus in the noses and throats of unvaccinated people, Walensky said.”

    My comment: how ANYONE can believe ANYTHING these people say is ASTOUNDING. How blind does the poor, brainwashed public have to be?

    Everyone has been blaming the spread of the virus on unvaccinated people, but the CDC Director just said that vaccinated people can spread it as well. What is “distinguishable” about “indistinguishable.”

    There is a lot of egg on a lot of “experts'” faces!

  112. Holly, I also saw that and wondered the same thing. And, I have also prayed for him.

  113. I just saw this regarding Franklin Graham’s nephew (Ann Graham Lotz’s son). He is in the hospital with Covid. I wonder if he is again one of the vaccinated, or maybe he didn’t go along with his uncle’s mandate?

    I am praying of course, just found it interesting.

  114. Holly, I’ve had that same issue for my phone, but not from my laptop.

    They will publish certain of my comments, but not the hard-hitting ones, and none of the ones about Dr. Cobia.

  115. Chas, it wouldn’t even let me on the second time (the first time I was able to read). The second time it wanted me to register, so I didn’t bother.

    I think it’s significant they wouldn’t post John’s comments. But we see that everywhere. We can sit there and see a group of democrats get on a plane together, and you can bet those ‘visionaries’ all have the shot. And then six of them come down with Covid? But our lying eyes right? Don’t believe what you see…

  116. John, I don’t know how I ended up with some friends who are scientists, doctors, nurses, but somehow I did. And although the one school nurse railed on me regarding this ‘vaccine’, most of them are like your wife.

    Like you, the threats, both voiced and implicit are enough for me to know something is very wrong.

    With you, I pray that God would thwart and expose these evildoers. It’s very sobering. I pray also that some would be wakened, and desire the strong meat of His Word so their senses are exercised to tell the difference between good and evil.

  117. Chas, it is two different stories. One was about how Dr. Cobia got COVID in 2020 and the other is about how she has told young people who begged her for the vaccine that it is too late.

  118. So they’re still pushing that story a year later? Even with evidence now coming out that vaxxed people can spread C-19 just like un-vaxxed? Wunnerful.

  119. chas, there is a newer article, published July 22, 2021, that references Dr. Cobia’s latest claims. It is linked below:


  120. John… I can believe it. I looked at that article. All they seem to want to hear is pro-mask nonsense. The posts there are about a year old, so…

  121. Holly, I have sent several comments on the matter of doctor Cobia to MedPageToday, but, believe it or not, none have been approved.

  122. Holly, it is very similar to spiritual blindness – just an unwillingness to really hear the truth. It seems as if everyone has become entrenched in their positions on almost everything.

    For the life of me, I can’t understand some of “the science.” My wife, who has a master’s degree in biology education, can’t either. For example, if people who have been “vaccinated” can still be infected with the delta variant, and can still be contagious, how are people who haven’t gotten the “vaccines” any more responsible for the spread of the delta variant than those who have? And, how are the people who haven’t gotten the “vaccines” any more responsible for the incubation of variants than those who have? It just doesn’t make any sense.

    I doubt I would have made a good reporter, because I would have found very few places willing to pay me for reporting the truth. I started my career as a CPA, and forming conclusions without sufficient information was a career-limiting move in that field.

    Anyway, no matter what the purported virtues of these “vaccinations,” the growing threats – implicit and explicit – if I don’t get them tell me more than enough. I understand science about as well as your next guy, but it seems I detect looming authoritarianism better than most.

    In terms of prayer, I continue to pray that God would thwart the plans of the evildoers who are stealing our freedom, and keep people free from harm from the disease and the “vaccines.”

  123. I noticed they used all the key talking points of the left. They inserted an awful lot of them. For interest, I researched the doctor, on healthgrades, all her ratings were the lowest you can give. The yelp and google reviews did not come up as usual, so I searched with those two words. It was interesting to see yelp had one review for an emergency care which gave the staff 3 out of 5 stars, and no review for the doctor. And the google reviews never came back.

    She also wrote an article elsewhere, that asserted that vaccinated people cannot give Covid. We obviously have seen differently in Mainstream News with just all the Democrats from Texas, Pelosi, Harris, etc.

    Where are the real reporters?

  124. Johninnc, I’m noticing the same (no one questioning anything).

    But doesn’t that seem to be so similar to lordship doctrine, Calvinist’s proof-texting etc? They seem to use the same method.

    It seems they are ramping up their propaganda and scare tactics. I didn’t hear of the one from Atlanta, but a nurse that is promoting the shot said something very different about another state. Also, the guy over in the UK said 60% vaccinated were getting Covid, but flip flopped and said he made a faux paux and meant to say 40%. Same thing happened in another country, stated one thing and then changed it. I think a good reporter might look up the countries that are almost entirely vaccinated, and ask the question, why they have a huge jump in hospitalizations for Covid after this shot?

    It doesn’t seem terribly difficult to see the push for youths to get this shot if people would just stop and think for a moment. It’s different than every vaccine ever.

    I agree with your points, normally there would be witnesses. I’ve seen plenty of people who have come out in video who say they have been damaged by this experimental shot. I see people saying they’ve had it, but I’ve not heard one story from a patient or family that corroborates her story.
    You should have been a reporter. I just marvel when people don’t just go check these simple things out. And think critically about what they’re being told. And most of all for those who know Him, to be in much prayer about it.

    You know what I’m noticing (could be in my own mind), is people’s family dying, younger, from blod clots (3 I know of, 2 died, the other one discovered it quickly – a few days after her shot). Strokes, heart attacks, and a friend, encephalitis of the brain. Could be an unhappy coincidence, could just be my age.

  125. Holly, you said: I’d at least question those numbers.

    My comment: Hardly anyone questions anything. Take, for example, all of the ballyhoo’d reports of the doctor from Alabama who said: “I’m admitting young healthy people to the hospital with very serious COVID infections,” she said. “One of the last things they do before they’re intubated is beg me for the vaccine. I hold their hand and tell them that I’m sorry, but it’s too late.”

    Any reporter worth his salt, before running with this story, would have asked a couple of simple questions, such as:

    1) How many “young people” were put on intubation for treating COVID at her hospital, since the vaccines were rolled out, while she was on duty?
    2) Can any of the alleged patients, or any of her colleagues, corroborate her story?
    3) Does she have any history of seeking publicity?

    Regarding question number 3, MedPageToday ran an article in July of 2020 about this same doctor. It was entitled: COVID-Positive Doc: ‘I Didn’t Wear a Mask and I Regret It’
    — Outdoor gathering leads to COVID spread among family members

    I have linked it below:


    The point to all of this is, I did about 5 minutes of research and was able to dig this up. Her sad story about telling people “it’s too late” could be true. But, I haven’t seen anyone establish that it is. It just made a sensational, fear-mongering story, and they ran with it.

  126. Johninnc.

    Yes, I feel sick for my kids, if not for the fact that I don’t believe our time here is long.

    I can’t even believe that regarding Kaye Ivey. Do any of these people understand what they’re doing? I had a nurse today Direct Message me on Twitter. She believes 100% of the people in hospitals are unvaccinated. And provided an AP article to prove it. Trouble is, that just isn’t the truth, and if it was the other side of the coin, I’d at least question those numbers. Especially in light of Israel, Grenada, Scottland statistics showing differently. I told her, the point really is, this should be our choice. We should not be forced into taking any medicine or vaccine ever. I realize to travel to other countries, people make the choice as to what they have to do. But we are quickly losing our choices.

    Another one emailed me today, a family member telling her she was going to ‘block’ her over this stuff.

  127. There has also been a concerted effort, over the past few days, of republican “leaders” jumping onboard the vaccine bandwagon.

    Example: comment yesterday from Alabama governor Kay Ivey: But it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks, not the regular folks.

    She doesn’t even seem to believe that people who have refused the vaccine are “regular folks,” and she seems to believe that they should be “blamed” for the spread of the disease. This is an outrageous targeting of people for their personal medical decisions. It is intended to isolate and dehumanize people who haven’t lined up for the shots, setting the table for their persecution.

    They join the pope, popular pastors and evangelists, the MSM, democrats, business leaders, and foreign governments in advancing this cause.

    I believe we are in the final days of the “carrot” phase, and are advancing into the “stick” phase.

  128. Holly, the most troubling aspect of this, to me, is the stifling of any conversation or debate about it.

    And, even lifelong friends and some family seem closed to discussing things.

  129. Today Newsmax aired a live video on FB, the Chris Salcedo show, and there were two doctors. One stated that they were ‘very efficacious (not exact) and the other was quite outspoken regarding the opposite, and those being infected and the most serious cases being vaccinated people, along with the precedent usually being no vaccine if there are medications to treat it (and there are). About 11 minutes in, the video was ‘no longer available’. I guess Facebook removed it.

    Today I saved some Government statistics, the most interesting is Israel. They are highly vaccinated as a nation, but the large majority of people with serious cases ending up in the hospital were the double vaccinated. In fact 4-6 times the amount depending on age. Some interesting thoughts as far as the Word is concerned regarding His people.

    Another country that is nearing full vaccination rate, is the 3rd most infected country. Very suspicious and troubling to me.

  130. Holly, wow. That is really sad!

    Yesterday, Newsmax was calling “breakthrough infections” rare. Today, they are saying that it is serious illness and death (not “breakthrough cases”) that are rare in vaccinated individuals. The numbers of deaths among “fully vaccinated” people are creeping up, so what your friend has said is demonstrably false (even though Biden just said the same false things about vaccinated people at his town hall last night).

  131. Johniinc, that made me laugh (the Spurgeon General).

    These people seem to want to ignore information that doesn’t suit them. Last night, I had someone from the Christian High school we both went to, basically wish I would die so she wouldn’t have to see my posts any more.

    She denied:

    That anyone vaccinated has gotten covid.
    That there is anything to be concerned of in the shot.

    She accused me of extremism, and insurrection. She told me she knew Scriptures (but never used them to correct me if I was wrong) and she talked about how she had ‘walked with God’ since she was 7.

    Sad part about this woman who wished me dead of the virus (for her convenience)?

    She is a school nurse in a town not too far from me.

  132. Franklin Graham (The Spurgeon General) has been eerily quiet about the shots of late.

    I suppose he’s back in his lane, which is preaching a false gospel.

  133. Purpose-Driven China. Cringe.

  134. I don’t think they want to quit while they have momentum, but I just keep praying and trying to keep my mind stayed on Him. My difficulty is my children and grandchildren, hard not to be concerned for them in this perilous time.

  135. Holly, I think the China building program has been for China.

    In any event, the enemies of freedom seem to have put their evil plans into overdrive.

  136. Johninnc – that is chilling. Interesting that China is going to help build these ‘quarantine’ facilities. May the Lord confuse them and expose them. Sure cannot imagine much time left for this age.

  137. I just read this today from the Wall Street Journal:

    Headline: New Coronavirus Variants Seen as Too Contagious for Hotel Quarantines

    Salient quotes:

    “China is planning to build large quarantine facilities in two southern cities. One center will be 2.7 million square feet, with rooms for 5,000 travelers and another 2,000 beds for logistics personnel.”

    “The emergence of more infectious variants “does make us regret tremendously that we hadn’t built a heap of purpose-built facilities eight months ago,” Tony Blakely, an epidemiologist at the University of Melbourne, told WSJ.”

  138. Holly, MedPageToday is considered very reputable. They are spending a lot of space trying to harmonize medical ethics with “public health exigencies.”

    It’s interesting. Just in the last couple of days, we’ve seen the White House, Dr. Fauci, and former Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius all come out in favor of vaccine mandates in some form or another.

    This seems to fit in with the MedPageToday call for policymakers to endorse vaccine mandates. It has all happened in a couple of days.

    Meanwhile, Macron has declared that, in France, “ ‘The unvaccinated will bear the brunt of the restrictions rather than everyone. From the beginning of august, the vax pass will be needed for coffee shops, restaurants, supermarkets, hospitals, trains, buses.’”

    Door-to-door vaccine visits have started in my city. And, an Ohio judge is making vaccinations a condition of probation.

    There has been a lot of movement on this front of late.

  139. Johninnc, I’d like to say I’m shocked, but I’m not sadly. The thinking of some in this country has gotten so skewed and wicked, they can’t reason with any sense of true morality even though they use the word with no understanding.

    I spoke to one of the medical providers for my son who told me they may be requiring it for her. I told her to just say no to the shot and went over some of the ingredients, and encouraged her to wait even if she was considering it. It would be better to be fired then dead.

    I wish people would just look on the openvaers site. They can search for heart, stroke, kidney, liver, encephalitis, etc., it seems endless with almost half a million reports, and many serious. If that doesn’t shake them up, I don’t know what will.

    What/who is this medpage anyways? They can’t be a true medical page can they? They have to know this goes against their oath. Josef Mengele comes to mind over and over. These people are ogres.

  140. That chilling quote doesn’t make sense. Joke could have bumbled it.

  141. Holly, today, there was an opinion piece in MedPageToday entitled “It’s Time to Require COVID Vaccination in the Workplace — Case increases demand prioritizing community health over individual rights”

    Following is a chilling quote: When a threat to an individual becomes a threat to society as a whole, that individual’s autonomy must give way to the greater good. Thus, despite the potential harms done by vaccine mandates, such as rare adverse reactions or loss of employment among those who refuse, the societal benefits to universal vaccination, including ending the pandemic, must be our moral and ethical priority. It is a calculus that we must accept and promote. It is time for our national, state, and local policymakers to endorse workplace vaccination requirements and lead the way with guidance and public declarations of support.

    My comment:

    This is coming out the same day that the White House said that it would support vaccine mandates by employers, schools, and local governments.

    One simply cannot stay neutral on this anymore. They are tightening the thumbscrews. Anyone who supports these types of mandates supports a medical apartheid, and the exclusion of dissenters from participating in society. They are enemies of freedom, plain and simple. Note that this will include many (most) of our acquaintances, many (most) of our former friends, and some of our family members.

  142. I just read that Franklin Graham is kicking off a Route 66-themed ministry with 8 stops along historic route 66. There simply is no gimmick that Graham won’t latch onto.

    Given his false gospel message, it kind of reminds me of a twist on the old song: “Get your kicks on Route 666.”

  143. Johninnc, I had hoped the same for the pandemic, that it would close some of the false teachers down. I see the argument often on the ‘loving your neighbors’ as one of my FB friends changed his mind on the vaccine, because of his pastor. He said his pastor gave that argument, and I can’t remember the rest, but I was just shaking my head for a number of reasons I know you can understand.

    Yes, with some Calvinists, it is sure possible they feel that way…

  144. Holly, wow. I guess by that logic, any murder victim “had it coming to them.”

  145. Holly, that is so sad. I had hoped that one of the silver linings of this pandemic might be that many of the “churches” that teach false gospels would close for good.

    Many people think they are “loving their neighbor” to get these shots. My belief is that the opposite is true: joining the masses who take the shots puts more pressure on those who resist the shots, and I believe will make it harder for people who don’t want the shots to participate in society.

    Of course, many want that, including anyone who believes shots should be mandatory to work, shop, travel, etc.

  146. Chas, you spurred me on to do some research after that looking for the particular ingredients, I posted it on FB, with the links to the safety sheets from the chemical companies that made the individual ingredients to the vax. What I found really a head shaker is most of them were ‘not for ingestion’ or ‘not for human consumption’, and one even made the differential between ingesting vs. injecting and warned against injecting (that was PEG) the ingredient in strong laxatives. The body expels those when ingested (supposedly) and the injection itself is dangerous.

    Now I realize that the most important thing is people’s eternal destiny, but it’s like this ‘thing’ is hastening their destiny and these ‘pastors’ seem willing to aid and abet like Johninnc mentioned regarding the philosophy of the planned baby murder association.

    One other interesting point I found in Calvinist groups. A lot of them are not concerned with abortion. The reason? Because they said, those babies were not the ‘elect’.

    I kid you not…

  147. Today, a friend told me her in-laws got the shot because their ‘church’ makes them show proof of the vaccine or wear masks. And they are still ‘afraid’ of all the germs out there.

    How sad is that, let alone the church has a female ‘pastor’ with a false gospel?

  148. John, that is shocking. He is very proud of what they have achieved? I understand what some may take that to mean, but it is obvious with no experience with a phase 3 clinical study or in mass production so quickly, that this is not something to brag about really.

    The most chilling comment you made was the last. The study on children ages 6 months to less than 12 years. Lord help the parents to make wise and informed decisions.

  149. Thanks, Holly, I found what may be the video you mentioned on Rumble. It was recorded last November 23. I have some thoughts on it but since this isn’t a C-19 info site I won’t clutter it with my ruminations on that. Thanks again for the lead.

  150. Holly, also, former Planned Parenthood president Dr. Leana Wen recently made these comments on CNN:

    “So how quickly we can get this under control and which way we go depends on what we do now to overcome disinformation. What we really need to do at this point is make vaccination the easy choice. It needs to be hard for people to remain unvaccinated. Right now, it’s kind of the opposite. It’s fine. It’s easy if you’re unvaccinated. You can do anything you want to do anyway. At some point, these mandates by workplaces, by schools, I think it will be important to say, hey, if you want to opt-out, you have to sign these forms, get twice weekly testing. Basically, we want to make getting vaccinated the easy choice. That is what it’s going to take for us to actually end the pandemic.”

    My comment: I wonder if Franklin Graham, J.D. Greear, Bishop T.D. Jakes and the rest of the gang are going to join prominent abortionist Leana Wen in this push? That is, do they also want to make life hard for people who don’t receive the vaccines?

  151. Holly, Moderna went public in 2018 at a stock value per share of $18. Today, they are worth $220 per share, or $88 billion.

    Following are recent comments from their CEO:

    “Twelve months ago in Q1 2020, Moderna had never run a phase 3 clinical study, never got a product authorized by a regulator, and never made 100 million doses in a single quarter. I am very proud of what the Moderna team has achieved.”

    “We appreciate the confidence of the U.S. government in our mRNA vaccine platform and the continued support. We are advancing the clinical development of mRNA-1273 with the ongoing Phase 3 study being conducted in collaboration with NIAID and BARDA. In parallel, we are scaling up our manufacturing capability with our strategic partners, Lonza, Catalent, and Rovi, to address this global health emergency with a safe and effective vaccine.”

    The company is now conducting the KidCOVE study on children ages 6 months to less than 12 years.

  152. There is one where Connecticut published the Moderna one. Search for those two words. Sorry if I got off topic. Really the truth here is, that this vaccine is their gospel, and their god is money. They will continue to sell people on ‘updates’ (boosters) for different ‘strains’ and ‘variants’. They’re crying all the way to the bank.

  153. Chas, I wish I could remember. The brand was Astrazeneca. I ‘think’ you could do a search engine search with the words ‘box ingredients’ and if it’s youtube, they’ve removed most all videos with any of that type of info, which is why I did screen shots back then, I knew it wouldn’t last. But people are getting smart and starting to upload them to bitbox and rumble and other platforms.

  154. Hollysgarcia, what video is it where you saw that box label? I’d like to see that.
    One of my sisters who was against getting any of the C-19 vaxxes succumbed to getting the J&J jab because her daughter wouldn’t let anyone who wasn’t vaxxed see see her daughter. The thought of not being able to visit the granddaughter was too much for my sister, so she and her husband got jabbed. Sad.

  155. Johninnc, yes. I believe they’ve gotten enough kickback, getting the religions involved to bring it to their door is just the right marketing ploy.

    And people will think, if XYZ ministry is involved, it has to be good. I’ve seen Memes about Jehovax witnesses at the door. It was worded a couple of ways, but I can see it too.

  156. Holly, I didn’t take it that way. It wouldn’t surprise me to see some of the big organizations from the world of churchianity offer up volunteers to join in Biden’s door-to-door outreach.

  157. Johninnc, just wanted to clarify, I didn’t think you were fearful (not sure if it came across that way). Usually if I speak about these things, someone will inevitably accuse me of being fearful. I’m not. I’m with you. I’m sad they just do not test the spirits, they do not prove all things. And the worst? As you said, it is ‘churchianity’ and it’s mouthpieces, many who are just wolves in sheep’s clothing.

  158. Holly, I am amazed that people are OK with these things. Many of the people I know think that the respite we’ve been given this summer will last, and that this will “blow over.”

    I am more sad than fearful, as people blithely go along with whatever lies the world feeds them, aided and abetted by the world of churchianity and its mouthpieces.

  159. John, the unrighteous get in power, and that is exactly what they do (exert pressure over personal matters). Where are all the women screaming, ‘my body, my choice?’

    It’s growing worse and worse we know, with Biden talking about sending people door to door. And people like Ken Starr & Dershowitz (sp?) saying they have a legal right to force us to take the vax. I am not living in any state of fear, but interest as the days grow shorter and darker. These are perilous times. Maranatha.

  160. Holly, in addition to the things you bring up, no one should feel compelled to yield jurisdiction over their faces or bodies to “public health experts,” politicians, employers, doctors, the media, public peer pressure, or anyone else.

  161. We were having a discussion today. I think many of us don’t normally spend time on these kinds of subjects, so there is a variety of opinions ranging from the absurd and fear mongering (this is the mark of the beast), to the supposed conspiracy theory that is simply truth.

    But one thing I believe we all have a responsibility to do before weighing in too strongly is to do our research. So I did some. I particularly liked one that had the actual box the vaccine came in since that seemed to be hard to find on the internet. It came on a video, but I freeze framed it and saved photos. Many do not believe there are aborted fetal cells, and I get it. So just look it up, find the package, look up the ingredients if you want to know.

    I’m almost sorry for some of the stuff I do know.

  162. Holly, there is an asymmetric burden of proof for “the science.”

    I think you are on the right track: those who have received the shots will be deemed to just have colds; and those who haven’t received the shots will be deemed to have COVID.

  163. Johninnc, shaking my head. Doctors and Pastors should not politicize healthcare. What a violation of what they are supposed to be there for.

    Undoubtedly, the vaccinated crowd’s colds will just be colds. Since the current testing cannot differentiate between c19 and the simple corona virus, I wonder what they might do differently?

    Or is it just by ‘feel’? 🙂

  164. Holly, it does remind me of Calvinism/LS – the tortured logic knows no bounds.

    As an example, I just saw this quote regarding the dreaded “Delta variant”:

    “This virus more efficiently binds to these cells, then enters those cells, and may, in some ways, elude immune system more effectively,” Priest said, noting that difference makes it more contagious and more likely to do damage in communities with lower vaccination rates.

    The reporter who wrote the story tweeted this:

    DELTA VARIANT SYMPTOMS: Doctors say they’re not seeing loss of taste or smell like we all associate with COVID but more runny noses and sore throats. It could get confusing in cold and flu season this fall

    My comment: Dr. Priest’s quote is the only time the words “cell” or “cells” were mentioned in the entire article. It sounds like a bunch of nonsense, followed by a non-sequitur. And, the reporter may have missed the irony in her tweet about this looking kind of like any other cold or flu.

  165. Holly, that is a good way to put it.

  166. Thank you for marking Franklin Graham. If he were honest, he would at least say, those who keep the law, AND put their trust in Him….

  167. Chas,

    I listened to the Chief Medical Officer of Moderna explain that the mRNA will change your genetic code, like “introducing a ‘line of code’”.

    He said they have, “Spent decades and billions of dollars to sequence the genome and can do it for every patient.”

    Everybody has their own choice for the moment, but we can see the ‘handwriting on the wall’ on the coercion, and the setting up the no buying, no selling, no working, no transport, etc.

  168. Johninnc, regarding MedPage, I shouldn’t be shocked, but I am.

    I also chuckled a little at his wording of ‘educational achievement’, then misquoted Stupid is as stupid does, and said, ‘feel like ‘they in’ and Easy Rider movie. All of it reminded me somewhat of the Calvinists/load-shippers that we’ve come up against, who use that kind of argument.

    The sad part is the hard growing harder. The good part is He’s coming back soon, any moment. I hope we can make a difference with some.

  169. Jason, it is dangerous mix when churches coalesce with governments.

  170. Apparently, repenting of sins in some Pentekkkostal churches in third world countries means, turning peaceful protesters over to police agencies that serve authoritarian regimes. I just saw an example of this reported in the African media.

  171. Following is an excerpt from a July 3, 2021 Franklin Graham tweet:

    If you are willing to turn from your sin and put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ, God will forgive you and give you a new life. Now that’s something to celebrate!

    My comment: No, that is not “something to celebrate.” It is a false gospel of works. Folks, this guy is bad news. It is not occasional. It is not “clear as mud.” It is a false gospel, plain and simple.

  172. Chas, you make a great point. No matter how much they have to twist the logic and tweak the narrative, it all seems to be leading to more and more authoritarian measures.

  173. Johninnc…

    The irony in the “vaccinated” arguments about future high infection rates of the “un-vaccinated” is that, according to some of the info I’ve seen, it’s the vaxxed who are more likely to be infected that the un-vaxed because the Jab’s mRNA re-programming messes up their immune system, making the vaxxed more vulnerable.

    Of course, either way, the un-vaxxed will be blamed.

  174. Holly, in terms of coercion, I have read the following comments (or excerpts) regarding “vaccine hesitancy” over the last couple of days on MedPageToday:

    Is it time for the stick not the carrot or do we have to wait for a resurgence of infections amongst the unvaccinated to turn the tide?

    They’re all candidates for the Darwin Award and their removal from the gene pool will only improve society, though the cost of caring for their hospitalizations during the coming spike will be burdensome.

    These Southern states are also the worst in educational achievement. Stupid is what stupid does. The doctors there must feel like they in an Easy Rider movie.

    The common theme I see in vaccine hesitancy is the use of the pronoun “I”. Gone is the sense of the common good, it is all about the individual, which is the problem with today’s society. All the problems with this vaccine seem to boil down to that; my right to not wear a mask, my right to not get a vaccine, my right to go where I want and do what I want. Me, me. me, me, me.

    I tried to post a comment as to the coercive nature of the “vaccines”, but it was not approved. The above comments are dripping with condescension, contempt, authoritarianism, moral judgement, and virtue signaling. These are the tools that have been used to get so many people on board with this.

  175. Holly, I just read that a judge in Ohio reduced a defendant’s sentence from 5 years of probation to 1 year of probation if the defendant would agree to get the COVID vaccine.

  176. John, I believe the same. My objection is them compelling people by many means to take this. And not in the way other vaccines are normally given, with instructions for things to look out for, etc. No FDA approval. But as you say, if I had no objections, the fact that I know for a fact people are being coerced and even threatened is sickening to me. One pilot was offered $5000 as a ‘bonus’ for taking the shot. He said he knows it’s a matter of time before they will be forced.

    I’m afraid many of our fellow citizens just do not see the bigger picture.

  177. Holly, even if I had no medical or ethical objections to the shots, I would oppose the heavy-handed way they are being foisted on us, in a one-size fits all way, with attendant documentation requirements.

    I often pray that God would thwart the plans of the evildoers who have taken away our freedoms. But, if our fellow citizens blithely throw their freedoms away, our freedoms are in grave danger.

  178. John, that is so upsetting, and all I personally can do is pray and boycott the companies I know are doing this.

    A believer asked today, if all vaccines for Covid didn’t have aborted fetal cells, or they weren’t used in the development, would anyone be able to add any religious objections regarding the current vaccines.

    I told her it makes some changes, that they are unsure of the outcome, in your genetic code. They will not know that for a long time. I kind of feel like making an unknown change to what God created is not Biblical. Just sharing ideas. Some are way better informed than I am.

    I also believe as a precursor to the take the mark, this vaccine we’re already seeing the God given freedoms to move about being taken, unless people take it. (This is happening across the world).

    I shared that the God given right to eat or work is being taken away, as in some places, take it or lose your job.

    Or, the God given right to breathe freely is being restricted by those who say take it or else wear a mask.

    I told her that was some of my thoughts thinking as a believer she was pondering religious objections and wanted ideas. It wasn’t posted to argue.

    Her odd argument after asking for reasons, simply said she couldn’t strongly disagree with me enough. (With no reasoning).

    I walked away shaking my head, only in that I thought I was answering what she requested. But your story of the place of business you mentioned reminded me of this today.

  179. Holly, the parallel between the medical “professionals” and the LS pastors is strange. Large corporations are also participating.

    A friend who works at the company I left after 20 years sent me this yesterday:

    Today they announced that we are returning to the office. Those who have not reported that they have been vaccinated in the company’s tracking system will be required to wear face coverings, practice physical distancing, have daily health screenings, have coronavirus testing twice each week, work in designated areas, “and other protocols”

    They are establishing a pseudo-scientific apartheid system.

  180. Wow. That is really unprofessional on his part.

  181. I pray people will see it and be informed. It’s a strangely similar parallel between these medical ‘professionals’ and these well known pastors.

    Today, my son-in-law went to a check up with his doctor. He had a different doctor, but that doctor asked him if he had gotten the covid vaccine. He is not very outspoken about these things but he said that his wife was in the medical field and they had decided not to take the vaccine, specifically not while there were still more children in their future.

    Do you know what that doctor told him? That he could go across the street to Walgreens and get the shot now and she’d never know.

  182. Holly, I have prayed for your friend.

    I am not surprised at the lack of humility, nor the lack of aptitude, training, knowledge, or listening skills of so many medical professionals.

    Some of the most prominent leaders in corporate America, churchianity, the medical profession, economics, and “public service” are virtually bereft of any real knowledge or substance.

  183. Johninnc, one thing I’ve learned throughout my years of being pressed into service as a caregiver (not saying I wasn’t willing, but circumstances) was that they are definitely not knowledgeable in every area. I was shocked honestly at the lack of knowledge, but I think people see doctors as the miracle workers they see on the ER type shows, with salvation from a certain disease at the last moment. But if you dare to question them, many will not respond favorably. I was asked either where I got my medical degree, or what my background was. Sometimes not in a snippy way, but that was few and far between.

    The mistakes they made were surreal, and the lack of ears to hear when they were warned of what was going on (such as Jason and his internal bleed), is also unreal. I called every doctor I could think of to say his vitals fit internal bleeding (he had just had a lung biopsy) and it wasn’t till he had a hemothorax (lung filled with blood) that they listened, and by then he had to be put on blood clotting agents, ventilator, and he coded. That was not the only serious mistake.

    I also was told by one doctor that a certain medicine didn’t cause liver damage. My husband has been on one for psoriatic arthritis for years, and while it may not have advertised it early, they do now. It causes liver scarring. And my husband has it. But biologics make them all a great deal of money.

    I feel you, but I really don’t have a doctor I trust right now sadly. My friend is needing a transfusion, but they want to give her the vaccinated blood, and it is not recommended for those who need a transfusion. So pray for that please… Sorry if I got off track.

  184. Holly, one of the unfortunate aspects of the medical profession is its tendency toward authoritarianism. The profession is one that relies not only on scientific training, but also credentialism. It is important to remember that many/most doctors now work for giant medical companies that are part of the corporate/political machine.

    After having received e-mails about non-medical social and political causes from my health care provider, I have lost a great deal of trust in them, and by extension, I have lost some trust in my doctor of more than 12 years.

  185. Thanks John. Regardless of the person’s decision, this doctor went further and asked ‘why not’…?

    I should have said something but she answered quickly so I didn’t. Frustrating they have stopped with their oath and become completely sold on pressing this EU vaccine forward. Again, may whoever decides to take it be kept safe, and I’m praying for doctors to realize how far they’ve gone overboard in this.

  186. Holly, I have prayed for your friend.

    It is sick and disgusting that so many doctors have jumped on the authoritarian bandwagon.

  187. I took a friend to the ER a couple of days ago, her lung had filled up with fluid (actually the pleural space) but the doctor (woman) asked her if she was vaccinated (she had her mask off because she was really struggling to breathe), and when she said no, she just told her, ‘then you need to keep your mask on at all times’.

    Sickening. The woman had her mask on, when people can’t breathe already, they’re trying to keep a mask on them. It was all I could do to tell her that as a doctor, she needed to be aware that the actual Executive orders for masks in certain places state that if someone cannot because of medical reasons they should not be compelled to wear it.


  188. Keith, I think so too.

    It’s kind of creepy that the big heroes of LS, rather than pointing out those kinds of things, feel compelled to join in the fray egging people on to get the vaccines.

  189. From a prophecy perspective, it’s interesting to me that Israel seems to be at the forefront of the political indoctrination surrounding COVID.

  190. Holly, it is really sad.

    There will be lots of coercion here as well.

  191. John, I got a note from a Jewish ministry today. It hadn’t really occurred to me, but coming up, they will ‘allow’ those who are vaccinated to come and visit the country. I realized that countries were doing this, and Israel being the worst, but it dawned on me how it will affect all those places, and likely in the way they will tell their employees, travelers etc. that they have to vaccinate.

  192. Holly, I believe that desire is behind Franklin Graham’s “vaccine” advocacy.

  193. John, the Grahams have to have that spot in the inner circle. They are like the popedom of the protestants, so I believe that is a prerequisite.

  194. Jason, there is, and has long been, a broad coalition between seemingly exigent political movements (of which there has been a flurry of late) and the LS community. The big numbers and trust in authority figures make them a useful partner.

  195. LS is designed to scare people into being globalists, communists, and CIA agents. Loving your neighbor apparently means being an uncritical thinker, believing every crisis, and swallowing every solution. Yesterday, they built Manichean cities, where they practiced Calvinist privilege and denied electricity to the “unelect”. Today, they solicit guilt-driven money to feed the hungry and funnel it to dictators. Before 1960, there was racism. In 2020, there is critical race theory. There is always some race that is taught to hate itself. They can never chill. I suspect that at the top level, demorats and NARcissists are the same people.

  196. Holly, maybe so – or at least maybe a spot in the inner circle of the new administration.

  197. Franklin is the apple that didn’t fall far from his father’s tree sadly.

    I’m guessing there is some money to be made if Samaritan’s purse starts getting involved with the hokey pokey 🙂 (vaccine).

  198. Chas, that’s an insightful comment. It is also very interesting that newspaper magnate William Randolph Hearst instructed his papers to promote Billy Graham.

  199. The way BG and FG are lionized as the epitome of mainstream Christianity is instructive of how the MSM has brainwashed so many so thoroughly. Whether it’s C-19 death counts, “vaccines”, or people’s modern views of what’s “Christian”, so much has been skewed from the truth for so long.

  200. Justin, there is a lot of that going around – blind faith in popular false teachers.

    I even know people who seem clear on the gospel, but are squeamish about criticizing the late Billy Graham or Franklin Graham.

  201. Justin Beard

    I live about 3 miles from the Billy Graham center here in Asheville NC. In these parts people consider Graham to be almost infallible in his teachings. I tell them, he is a teacher just a false one. People act like I’m crazy when I say he doesn’t preach the true gospel. They’ll go and on about how many he has saved as if he’s Christ himself.

  202. chas, yeah, I haven’t seen him make any comments about that. Nor have I seen him weigh in on the booster that Fauci says we will almost certainly have to get within a year (and, I guess, every year?).

    I only pay attention to the BGEA, in that they are a prominent part of the mainstream of the LS community, which is part of our mission field. I like what you did there! I also thought about the initials FG – False Gospel.

  203. I’m surprised FG hasn’t weighed in on either side of the mask controversy. Or has he? “Frankly” (swidt?), I don’t pay much attention to the BGEA.

  204. LD, I actually got that take from my wife. I had just attributed it to Graham wanting to be in the news, and also wanting to fit in with the world system.

  205. Johninnc,
    That is an interesting take. So much for his Lordship Salvation teaching and choosing rather to be pleased by men and being prideful. All the while, deceiving the masses with his false gospel. It is disheartening.
    Even so, thanks be to God for his true love and justice.

  206. LD, I agree we should mark and avoid them – like the plague!

    I think Franklin Graham’s advocacy for the shots could have a lot to do with his pride. He is not sought out by all of the presidents in the same way that his father was. So, he is reaching out to the new administration by offering his influence with certain segments of professing Christendom.

  207. Amen Johninnc!
    In the end, it all comes down to the true gospel.
    The false gospel portrayed by Franklin Graham, Samaritan’s Purse, and others should be marked and avoided at all cost, even though they do good works physically in the eyes of men. It’s of no use if they proclaim a false gospel that does not save people eternally.
    I personally will not get the covid vaccine and I pray that others would investigate and, hopefully, choose not to get it, but instead live a healthier lifestyle.
    Be well and stay strong in Christ Jesus.

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