Westboro Baptist “Christians”

Anna, over at the Blog “A Rose By Any Other Name” wrote a great insightful post on the Westboro Weirdoes and their missionary zeal of protesting at funerals. She made a legitimate statement, “I do not understand how a group who call themselves Christians can act in such a way.”

I commented on her statement and now expand upon it.

1. Yes, they “call” themselves Christians but anyone can call himself a Christian — but what he calls himself does not make him one.

2. She said, “They have definitely proven that time and time again by their repulsive actions.” Believers (including me ) must be constantly reminded that the action we see in a person does not prove before God that they are Christians. Only the Lord and they themselves know for sure by their faith.

3. A believer can tell that another person is a believer in Christ only by their testimony in words. I personally know many folks who are wonderfully nice and “moral” people but are members of cultic religions. I also know some folks who, by their words, profess to be Christians, yet live deplorable lives. In either case their words do not support their behavior or their behavior belies their faith.

One of these vile WestBoro Baptist women (Shirley Whoositz) said that all others (murdered babies, the Amish, Jews, and all other Christians, etc) are condemned to hell because they do not keep God’s laws. Therefore by her own words, she proves to us that she is not preaching a true Christian Gospel but an accursed, false works-law “salvation” message. Therefore, she condemns herself and all who believe her drivel.

Obeying God’s laws will never keep her or anyone else out of hell. God’s Law is perfect and condemns mankind but God’s Grace saves. The Bible says God’s law is simply a schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. The Apostle Paul in his letter to the Galatians 3:24-25 “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [instructor] to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.”

The penalty for breaking the law (sin) is death, spiritual separation from God. But the Gift of God is eternal life through personal faith in Jesus Christ.
Christ’s death on the cross, His burial and resurrection is the fulfillment of the law — and is available to anyone who makes a one time decision to put their faith in Christ as Savior.

Romans 3:20 “Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in His sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
John 1:17 “For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Romans 3:28 “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”

These Westboro Baptist people do not talk like believers in Jesus Christ. Therefore, we assume by their words that they are lost and need Jesus Christ as Savior. If God’s Grace in Christ can save a sinner like me, then He can save anyone… even these people. This is available to them only if they individually choose to place their trust/faith in Jesus Christ as Savior. Only then they will have God’s gift of eternal life. They must no longer depend on the keeping of God’s law or their “good” works for salvation, but only Christ alone.

The law cannot save — placing one’s faith in Christ alone does save.

It is obvious that the Westboro bunch is being deliberately provocative, but without Christ they are blind and preaching an accursed message. Pray for their salvation in Christ alone. Then their eyes will be opened and they can see.

Please pray also for the families of the murdered children and the family of the murderer.

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14 responses to “Westboro Baptist “Christians”

  1. Daniel Lopez
    Welcome! Pastor Tom Cucuzza came out of Roman Catholicism too. Seems like some who come out are still drawn to Calvinism or Arminianism. Westboro are the hyper versions.

    I’m so glad you’ve come to understand the simplicity that is in Christ. Pastor Cucuzza has some good sermons on ‘Understanding the Two natures’ and Understanding repentance. Those are helpful in just losing some of the traditions we think are Biblical. God bless you in your walk.

  2. Daniel Lopez, welcome and thanks for your comment.

    We can never know who has trusted in Christ alone as Savior, but if their testimony is consistent with the gospel, we can know that they have heard it.

    Any church that teaches that someone who has “renounced the faith” has forfeited his eternal life should be avoided. Once someone has trusted in Christ as Savior, that person has eternal life that can never be lost or forfeited – even if that person later “renounces the faith.”

    And, as you have noted, one’s behavior has no bearing on whether or not he has eternal life. The Bible says that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. And, that anyone who has believed in Jesus as Savior has eternal life.

    Anyone who teaches that works are required to receive, retain, or prove one has received eternal life are to be avoided.

  3. Daniel Lopez

    This article was done way back in 2006, when I was an 11 year old Roman Catholic. Now I’m a 24 year old Bible believing Christian who is inquiring in the free grace gospel.
    Even though the END have not been in the spotlight recently , there are still very active on Twitter and on their blogs. There also has been a lot of big hits and news with this cult since 2006. For in stance, They have thanked God for the Sandy Hook and Pulse Nightclub shootings. They have picketed the vigils and funerals of those who were killed in the shootings. A lot of members who were once loyal to the cult have left the group.
    I read Libby Phelp’s book “Girl in a Wire” as well as Lauren Drain’s, “Banished.” Lauren Drain actually trusts in The finished work of.Christ The WBC responded to these defections by, or course, saying that they left “because they do not want to obey Scripture (like other LS, the WBC thinks that obeying the law is synonymous to obeying Scripture and obeying the Gospel)” are on their way to hell because the defectors questioned the WBC’s teachings and left the group. Not only I believe that questioning a church elder’s teaching and leaving an abusive, controlling, cult like church is NOT renouncing the faith, but I also think that it makes the loyal members think they are on their way to hell because of their “ungodly works.” That sounds just like the Holiness Arminians, who deny eternal security, that the WBC heavily attacks and slanders. According to these Holiness Arminians and Pentecostals, if you go to the movies, swim in public, if you are a woman and wear, pants, shorts, makeup, or jewerly, or have short hair, or you own a TV in your home, you are on your way to hell.
    The same thing with the WBC. If you disagree with or question their ludicrous doctrines, travel abroad, visit or inquire in another church, or live outside of the WBC’s authority, your soul is in peril. So In my opinion, not only this is an unbiblical excessive, abusive church authority. But This also proves that the WBC is not much better than the Roman Catholics, Holiness Arminians, or the Campbellite Churches of Christ, when it comes together they really trust to be right with God. Except with the WBC, being Calvinists, they claim to be staunch militant defenders of the faith by Grace alone doctrine. But they slip all these rule keeping and obedience to the law requirements through the back door.

  4. Westboro Baptists are hardcore Calvinists… But I’m beginning to think if you follow Calvinism to it’s logical conclusion, you cannot help but begin to be hardened like them if you ever knew the Lord. Look at what I wrote today, this was probably the most telling post from a Calvinist about his own grandchild.

    http://redeemingmoments.com/2015/03/13/the-total-depravity-of-certain-calvinists/

  5. islams not for me.

    Thanks — you are right — I believe they have their own religion and false savior.. Too bad.

    In CHrist eternally,

    ExP(Jack)

  6. islams not for me

    I dont consider the westboro ‘christians’ real followers of Christ Jesus.

    I’m more of the opinion they are closer to being inbred and undead…

    🙂

  7. Yes, i think the UK is fairly similar except in the US there seems to be a more general acceptance of the existence of God which seems to be fading fast here. But God is good all the same and i will go on praising Him!

    Lord, send Your Holy Spirit upon these nations.

    In Jesus,
    Maria Toth
    http://www.inhishands.co.uk

  8. Maria,

    Thanks for the thoughtful comment. How are things for Christians in Merry Old England? I have heard that there is much dilution and some persecution of the Pure Gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it is here in the USA,

    Yes, the True Christian is defined not by churchianity but as one who has acknowledged before God that he/she is a sinner and that the penalty for sin (missing the mark of God’s perfection) is spiritual death.

    To be that True Christian we believe that Jesus, (God manifested in the flesh) died for that sin on the cross, was buried and rose from the grave, thereby offering eternal life as a free Gift. All eternity is guaranteed to anyone who makes that one time conscious decision to believe (rely, trust) in Jesus Christ alone as their Savior. (not their church, priest, religion, lodge or friends).

    So simple, yet so misunderstood.

    ExP (Jack)
    http://www.WeaverClan.com

  9. I like your ‘what we call ourselves doesn’t make us one’ thought.

    Reminds me of a thing a singer once said – just cos you go to McDonald’s doesn’t make you a hamburger, just as much as going to church doesn’t make you a Christian!

    God bless you.
    Maria Toth
    http://www.inhishands.co.uk

  10. Ain’t it the truth bro. Jack! I remember the roller coaster experience I had as a believer before I realized that assurance is based on believing God’s promise, not on looking at my behavior. You’re a blessing!

  11. Thanks David, Anna and TMW,

    Just the Word of God… and I thank God that someone shared that simple yet powerful Gospel of Jesus Christ with me 42 years ago.

    Ephes. 2:8-9
    For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

    We can rejoice that God’s salvation is NOT dependent upon our behavior or works but totally upon our faith decision for Christ. Otherwise — we would all be lost for all eternity.

    ExP (Jack)

  12. the merry widow

    Morning all! Others have also posted on those pharisees! That is what they are, Jesus condemned the pharisees for placing heavy burdens on the people’s backs, and then not lifting a finger to lighten the load! How many have broken their backs and hearts by trying to carry it?
    By their fruit you will know them, their’s stinks to high Heaven! Works follow grace and love, they are not love though! They are a very sick group, they also campaigned for the tree, algore! that says it all!
    Good morning, G*D bless and Maranatha!

    tmw

  13. Thank you for linking, Jack! An awesome post!

  14. Thank you bro. Jack for once again bringing to the light a despicable example of false brethren that are often used by the world to put genuine believers in a bad light. What shameless pride, arrogance & profuse blindness to think they are actually keeping God’s Laws! Thank the Lord Jesus Christ that He kept it for us, & died in our place!
    They say they are Baptists & yet twist the New Testament that badly? Thank you for shedding the light of Scriptural truth on this infestation on the name of Christianity. May the Lord bless you!

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