By johninnc
Romans 1:16: For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
“If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry Christmas” was an aphorism often attributed to the late Don Meredith, who was a collegiate and NFL quarterback and, later, an announcer on Monday Night Football. The meaning of this phrase is that the presence of conditions (ifs and buts) so completely changes the nature of something as to make it something else entirely.
The gospel of Christ is the message of how Jesus provided completely for the salvation of man, such that anyone who receives through faith what He has done has eternal life that can never be lost or forfeited.
1 Corinthians 15:3-4: For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
The gospel means good news. There are many people within the world of professing Christendom, however, who have a corrupted view of the gospel of Christ in which they have either implicitly or explicitly added man’s work to the finished work of Christ in order to have eternal life. One of the most pernicious of these corruptions is the false gospel of Lordship “salvation” (LS).
LS is the unsupportable and unbiblical belief that the PERFORMANCE of good works, the PROMISE of good works, or the EVIDENCE of good works MUST accompany faith in Christ in order to establish, or provide evidence, that such faith has resulted in eternal life.
LS usually manifests itself in statements that superficially affirm the gospel, but then corrupt it through unbiblical caveats that include the words if and but. Following are some real-world examples gleaned from the archives of the expreacherman site:
The Ifs
If a person is a true Christian they will want to follow Jesus and obey Him…
If the man does not live differently from what he did before, both at home and abroad, his repentance needs to be repented of, and his conversion is a fiction. (Quote from 19th century Calvinist and LS preacher Charles Spurgeon)
Do you believe ONCE SAVED – ALWAYS SAVED?
What if…
In other words, if a man is not continuing in repentance and conformity to Christ, then that man has never been saved…
The Buts
My understanding is that works are not required for salvation, but…
I think we all agree that our fruit doesn’t save us, but…
Not that works are needed to obtain salvation, but…
I’m a firm believer in presenting salvation as faith in Christ (NO works), but…
The Ifs and Buts
I’m not a Lordship salvationist at all but I’ve been of the mindset that if a person is a real Christian…
If a person supposedly is born again, but the family sees no change, friends see no change, coworkers see no change, and even his or her own self sees absolutely no change …
Therefore, if a man is saved, he will pursue God all the days of his life, not because he has to, but…
Each of the above statements corrupts the gospel message by adding an unbiblical caveat. Since the gospel of Christ is the power of God unto salvation for everyone that believes, it is of the utmost importance that we proclaim the gospel without any such add-ons, and defend it against such.
The Bible is explicitly clear that anyone who has believed in Jesus as Savior has eternal life that can never be lost or forfeited – no, ifs, ands, or buts about it.
John 5:24: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
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Notes From A Retired Preacher 
Holly, yeah, I quickly tire of going around and around with those kinds of discussions.
Speaking of doctrines, I had two on my page on FB recently haranguing me about believing Him for eternal life. And I said I completely agree that we’re believing Him for that, but initially I didn’t realize they were going the crossless gospel route. They defined repentance as turning from sin, but said it was unnecessary where salvation is concerned. I told them turning from sin is a work therefore we know it cannot be included, but that repentance does not mean to turn from sin, although one can change their mind about sin. One can repent and commit sin.
It seems futile at times to talk to these types, one an associate pastor, but I find myself cutting them off a lot more quickly and firmly for the sake of others.
Bobbi Jo, on Redeeming Moments, I wrote an article that is entitled Has Subtle or Unbiblical Language Crept Into Our Gospel?
Since the gospel is the power of God unto salvation (Rom 1:16-17; 1 Cor 1:17-18) you are wise to stick with clear language. We have learned terms that the Bible doesn’t use and I believe it detracts people from the simple condition of believing. Instead they are believing in a formula, a prayer, a method. They need to hear the truth and be told what the Bible has said over and over, which is to believe upon Him (Christ and His work for us) to be saved.
Hi Bobbi Jo, yes! I remember you. Glad to see you again. I’ve been busy with daughter and little grandkids visiting this week, and with 4 of them, 7 and under it was active lol.
That is pretty typical these days and the attacks are stronger I noticed on FB. The false doctrines people are getting into are far more pronounced, we need the Word more than ever. I pray all is well with you.
Phil, yes, John Mac teaches double predestination, although he dances around it like he does with TULIP just calling it DOG (doctrines of grace). You can find a Q & A with him and others. They’re trying to pinpoint him and as usual Phil is running interference stating ‘he’s written a whole book on it’ (essentially saying ‘we’re done’). But if you skip to the end, you’ll see, although he doesn’t use the terminology. Phil Johnson sort of denies they ‘go that far’ and calls it ‘ultimacy’. But they’re just dishonest.
You can search for ‘double’ within the conversation to see where the questioning starts there. This is the title:
Election and Predestination: The Sovereignty of God in Salvation
Hi, not sure I remember you, but greetings
I too will hear as part of someone’s testimony things like, “I invited Christ into my life” or “Christ into my heart: Nothing wrong with these, but did the person believe the good news that Christ saved them by what he did on the Cross, which is actually what saves them. These invitations are fine, but no one lives up to them. They can also be kind of a red flag in that in some churches these “salvation slogans” or cliches’ become requirements to be saved. And these invitation slogans are not Scriptural.
If you have ever seem the 1972 “The Thief in the Night” original movie where this girl is afraid she will get left behind in the Rapture simply because she was taught that she had to “invite Jesus into her heart.” So her mom and sister lead her in a prayer to “ask Jesus into her heart.” Apparently their pastor also taught something like this when he said to accept Christ “all you have to do is ask.”
This I think is based on a misunderstanding of Rev 3 on the Laodicean church keeping Christ out and not letting him in. But actually the Laudicina church were saved, but they had left Christ out of their lives.
Phil
Hey, Phil!
I believed I remember you from before. It’s so great to see you again (if you’re who I’m thinking of. If not, disregard my crazy lol).
Yes. I’ve told many when asked that I’m a Bible believing Christian. That’s it. As far as the video, I’ve watched it multiple times as it helps renew my faith.
Many really think they believe in grace through faith alone and I’ve noticed when you press them on it, they always mention works. It’s concerning when you’re discussing things with someone and they say, “So you think John MacArthur is wrong?” Ummm why would I care about John MacArthur and what he thinks, teaches, or believes? He isn’t who decides my eternal destination.
Still trying to understand the appeal to works. John has given me wonderful advice to walk away after a few replies as there are so many verses one can pull in an attempt to point to something that appears to prove LS. The Word of God is clear with salvation and I’m saddened how long it took for me to see it!
I’m thankful for everyone here. Unfortunately I have to leave the church I’ve been in for a few months as the pastor mentioned “surrending your life to Christ” when explaining things to my daughter. I immediately cut it off and explained to her. Then he did it again! Sigh….I haven’t been back since.
So many confused people out there.
Hi Bobby Jo
What you have encountered with LS Calvinists sounds like what I have had in the past. Calvinists seem to only recognize two belief systems: you are either Calvinist or Arminian. The is false; the third system is a Biblicist which is what I am and I believe you are. The term Calvinist is many times misunderstood by Christians in general to simply mean anyone OSAS which is incorrect. They will call anyone who believes OSAS a Calvinist.
The best defense against Calvinists is the abundance of Scripture passages that clearly state that one is saved by grace thru faith alone, and a salvation that cannot be lost. Calvinists/LS’rs really put their faith in man made doctrines like Reformed Creeds and Tulip. Also, they look thru a Covenant Replacement theology lens where they don’t really separate Law from Grace. Believers are under grace alone. Calvinists say they believe in justification by faith alone, but they actually believe in salvation by faith plus perseverance in good works.
I would recommend avoiding them on their LS Calvinist, or Reform Theology sites.
There is a video here on Exp called “Another Gospel” done by Mark Senet or Mark Andre. This is a pretty no holds barred denunciation of Lordship Salvation/Calvinism, and all the false teachings out there. I think you can press search and find it.
Bobbie Jo, it’s good to hear from you again.
There are a lot of religious people out there in professing Christendom who have chosen theological teams (in this case Arminian vs Calvinists) whose beliefs both undermine the gospel. They may only rarely have encountered a professing Christian who rejects both of these man-made theological systems. It can be hard to get through to them, much in the same way that trying to reason with virulent political partisans can be.
I have found that some people trapped in such systems are receptive to the truth when it is presented to them, others who seem to only double down on their delusion, and still others who seem to vacillate. Sometimes, the person with whom we are discussing the gospel might be resistant, while the message may resonate with someone who overhears the discussion.
Open forums online can be free-for-alls in which truth has a lot of competition for peoples’ attention. Most people on such forums will vigorously dispute the truth. People often have a lot of sunk cost (time, tradition, and treasure) vested in their false religious beliefs, and can get really testy if they are challenged.
I have prayed that God would comfort you and encourage you.
Btw, Holly still regularly comments here, so it is likely she will see your comment. I am sure she will remember you.
Hello, everyone! I’ve been out here preaching OSAS, and have noticed I’m getting a lot of push back.
I have been on this site before and have noticed there are times that my beliefs are tested and very harshly!
People ask me if I’m an Arminian. I tell them no, I don’t believe one can lose their lose their salvation. And then one assumes I’m a Calvinist. I tell them no, I don’t believe one needs to persevere.
I’m called a heretic and have many scriptures being thrown in my face and I could really use encouragement. I remember Holly from this site and pray she is still here and that she remembers me.
Thanks anyway john.
Phil, I have searched our comment history and found nothing that speaks to whether or not MacArthur teaches double predestination.
Hi John, I am in a grace alone Bible study on Wed. nites, and we have recently had a visitor who insists that I acknowledge “election” of the saints. I told him, I agree on election of the saved/saints, but not through the Calvinist/Reformed theology lens. I believe God offers salvation to ALL people through faith in Christ alone, not counting works. But, God foreknew that everyone will not come to saving faith and reject Christ. So, God always knew and knows who will eventually be saved. Nevertheless, salvation is still available to everyone because Christ died for the sins of everyone.
This visitor is pretty obviously a John MacArthur fan, as my denouncing JM seemed to set him off.
I can’t seem to get an answer online as to whether JMac believes in Double Predestination. I think he does, as did did Sproul, Spurgeon, and most of the present day LS accolates. JM seems to side step certain issues a lot.
Since this visitor was so adamantly defending “election”, I have wondered if he and his mentor JMac both believe and teach Double Predestination. If JM does teach Double Predestination, I might ask this visitor if he agrees with him. I want to be careful and not be accused of “strawman” arguments. I try to just use the false teachings of LS and Calvinism and not finger point at certain people like JMac, but that is hard to do when they are teaching a false gospel of works.
But let me know if indeed JMac does clearly teach Double Predestination. I suspect this visitor does believe it. We are studying I Peter in the Bible study and I am not going to go there unless this visitor, named Rick, brings up the subject again of “election.” LS is like a “Trojan Horse”and that JM is a brilliant and edifying man, but hiding underneath this Trojan Horse is the false gospel of salvation thru faith plus works and perseverance in discipleship of the “elect/predestined.”
Phil
Yes john, I have mentioned an IFCA, Calvinist/JM, brainwashed Bible church I was in the late 1990’s and gladly left in 2000. They had this rack of salvation tracts in their foyer. I read one that was supposedly based on the teachings of Reformers like Calvin and Luther. But this said that they all taught salvation by faith plus perseverance and not just faith alone. This tract was just loaded with more legalism than the RCC the Reformers left. I just couldn’t believe that Reformers like Luther would contradict justification by faith alone. And all of their tracts in this John MacArthur fan club church said about the same thing: faith plus works. Once I left several tracts called “God’s Way of Salvation” by Alexander Marshell, which is a faith and grace alone tract. Well within a few days I noticed these tracts had all disappeared–and I don’t think someone just took them to distribute them: I think whoever was in charge of these tracts threw them away.
Just an added note: I love Tom Cucuzza’s analogy of JM’s Lordship Salvation being a Trojan Horse that initially has the appeal of a gifts teacher like JM, yet JM reveals his true mission (which is the mission of all legalists and Satan, of getting people to buy into Satan’s oldest trick to fool the church for the last two thousand years, and that is the deception that people have to persevere in true discipleship to make it to Heaven: that Christ’s dying for our sins “was somehow just a jump start and we had to do the rest with our works to make it into Heaven.”
I sent a message to JM’s “Grace to You” website and used Galatians 3 and Galatians 1, and instead of “You foolish Galatians!” I substituted You foolish “Lordship Salvationists” for Galatians.
Also in Paul’s warning in Galatians 1:6 I inserted “Lordship Salvationists” for “any who preaches any other gospel of salvation….”
I am pretty sure my message will get either deleted or placed in the “easy believism/greasy grace” file. JM has shown he has an arrogant, condescending attitude toward ordinary lay people like me. After all, he is a PhD and knows “far more” than Pion laymen like me.
Phil
Phil, that’s a great point about tracts beginning with “to the elect.” It really emphasizes the absurdity of Calvinism.
I watched a couple of very good videos by Tom Curcussa in the dangers of Lordship Salvation and Calvinism.
Hi john,, very good point about arguing with a Calvinist about election. I suppose to them one of the non elect, it would go in one ear and out the other. And I guess to them, the five points are meaningless to the non elect and only are for the elect.
I wonder if they have any salvations tracts that start with, “To the Elect”?
Hy verbie. If it was me I would stay watchful in this church in Duluth. I used to go to another Bible church until about a year ago until the pastor started quoting Francis Chan. Also, in one Sunday school Bible study a church elder was leading it and instead of leading the Bible study, he used the Bible study hour to give a summary of get this: the annual churches finances. Now what does this tell a visitor about this church? I haven’t been back since.
I have been going to a church in my area for a couple of months now that is a sister church of Duluth Bible church, which is freely by grace. What I don’t understand is the pastor will quote someone during the service without saying who he is quoting. I asked him once who it was he quoted during that particular service and he said it was JM. I asked him why he would quote him if he knows he’s LS and he said he doesn’t have an issue with it since Dennis Rosker will quote him sometimes.
Phil, I think theoretical arguments with Calvinists over election, or almost anything else for that matter, are kind of ironic.
If God really does make our choices for us, then this guy could argue until he’s blue in the face, and it would only change the minds that God has chosen to be changed. It would follow that God is choosing each of you to take opposite sides in the argument.
I was at a mid weak Bible study at a church I go to and like. They are a grace alone Church. The church rejects LS and is grace alone. But a few of the members seem to be taken in by John MacArthur’s writings. I tried to explain that he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. That what he teaches can be edifying, but he also teaches a false gospel of faith plus works. And that Calvinism, which he buys into, is a distortion of the gospel message. This one guy there got a bit upset with me about election. He said the Bible does teach election. Yes, I said, it does, but not the Calvinist version. I tried to explain to him that our elections as believers does not mean that salvation is limited to only certain people: that salvation is available to everyone. Well, that did not go anywhere with him. He wanted to lure me into an “election” debate. The pastor made it clear that this church does not buy into LS or Calvinism, only salvation by grace alone thru faith alone. The attitude of this guy seemed typical of LS Calvinists; there seemed little joy in all Christ had done; and it all seemed to boil down to some theological debate over this one issue of election he was clinging to. I doubt I will see him at this Bible study again. But if I do, I think I will ask him to explain all the particulars of the LS Calvinist plan of salvation. I think what really set him off was I accused MacArthur of being a false gospel teacher and how he teachings have infiltrated once grace alone teaching churches. with his false gospel of works, works and works to be saved. I know this because I sadly left an IFCA church that once was grace alone and had been poisoned with JM’s Lordship Salvation false teachings. The pastor of this present church assured me that JM was kicked out of the IFCA in 2017 and won’t be missed, good riddance. Even though this Bible church I am now a part of is not perfect I intend to stay. I thought I would warn them of a big danger in the church at large today which is LS Calvinism. I think that LS legalism is still spreading in churches today as in Paul’s time as in Galatians.
It’s been a while since I posted here. Good to be back.
Phil
Brad, yes. Alice last posted here about a week ago.
John doea Alice from Aus still post here? haven’t heard from her for some time.
Excellent 👌 thank you for your faithfulness on presenting God’s word so clearly.
Brad, its good to hear from you again.
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Alice, I see it more that the angel is addressing everyone.
In any event, anyone who has believed in Jesus as Savior has eternal life, irrespective of any works. Revelation 14:12 could relate to Christians walking in the newness of life. Alternatively, it could refer to the sinless new man.
Thanks Holly for your comment about Rev 14: 6-7.
It is possible that the angel is addressing those who have already believed the ‘Everlasting Gospel’ and are saved and therefore giving instructions regarding the judgement, and giving glory to God/ worship Him.
But the angel is ‘preaching to those who dwell on the earth- to EVERY nation, tribe, tongue and people’. I take that to mean the angel is addressing ALL people dwelling on the earth at that time, both those who have already believed and those who have NOT YET believed.
Also Rev 14: 12 “Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.”.
I find it interesting that both 1. Keeping the commandments, and 2. Faith of Jesus are mentioned in this verse. Faith + Works??
I understand it is referring to ‘Saints’. Just a thought! Not for salvation obviously! Sanctification?
👍🙏 blessings
Dennis, this ministry was established and flourished under its founder, the late Jack Weaver. I am honored to continue to administer the site and I am glad that it is a blessing to you.
I really enjoy all the resources you supply on this website.
Your dedication in maintaining it, and the effort you put in to reach the lost, is greatly appreciated, thanks.
Dennis Klopper.
New Zealand
Alice, these are a couple of my thoughts, just bouncing it around.
In Revelation 14, it says that the angels preach the everlasting gospel to them, then it says, ‘saying unto them’. I don’t take that to be the gospel. I take that to be the next instruction after the gospel is to those who have believed. This (to me anyways) is the same as establishing the difference between eternal life and discipleship or how we are to behave (remember, believers at that point will still have their physical bodies).
Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Another possibility is thinking on the word gospel meaning good news. Is it possible since judgment has come, that this is everlasting good news.
Alice, agree. Eternal life is found only in Jesus, not in any of the false man-made religions.
Thank you Johninnc for your prompt reply regarding my question.
It makes sense that the 144,000 Jewish witnesses would have preached the gospel of grace and Christ Jesus.
Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists and other religious people of this world would be totally shocked to realise that what they had been believing and been taught all their lives is completely false and that Jesus Christ is the only true God and in him alone is salvation available.
Alice, I haven’t found any discussion of this particular passage at ExPreacherman.
However, Revelation 14:1-5 discusses 144,000 tribulation witnesses who preach the gospel to the world faithfully. We did an article that touched on that, linked below. It includes a link to a sermon by Tom Cucuzza that discusses those witnesses.
Verses 6-7 seem to be appealing to man that he knows there is a Creator to whom he is accountable.
The exact content of the “everlasting gospel” isn’t specified, but the placement of this passage just after the discussion of the 144 thousand witnesses in verses 1-5 seems to indicate that this is a final warning to non-believers to stop suppressing the truth and believe in Jesus as Savior.
And yes, people who become believers after the rapture are saved by believing in the finished work of Christ, just like now.
You have probably covered this subject in the past on other posts here but can anyone please tell me why the Angel in the middle of the 7 year Tribulation on earth in Revelation 14: 6-7 flying in the midst of heaven preaching the ‘Everlasting Gospel’ to those dwelling on earth to every nation, tribe, tongue and people ‘ Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters’ didn’t mention anything about the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and the need to believe in Jesus apart from works but by faith in the finished work of Christ alone? 1 Corin 15: 1-4 and Eph 2:8-9
I am assuming that even during the tribulation after the Church has been raptured, people are saved by Grace alone in Christ alone through faith alone, as in all dispensations.
I would appreciate your answer.
jason, I wouldn’t place any stock in those books.
Note to all: Let’s move on.
And if the Mark is as the books portray it, then it is certainly possible for a believer to take it. Chang actually takes it. They leave me clueless.
Holly, it is sad that so much energy goes into these kinds of efforts, and that they draw such large audiences, only to confuse things.
I definitely concur with being clear with our speech.
I went through the old series of ‘Left Behind’ books to see what their ‘gospel’ was. Almost always consistently they had to call, confess, pray, turn from sin or ABC’s and sometimes it was Roman’s Road. But someone had to ‘help’ them get there by praying for it. Only at the lines to get their heads chopped off did those believe what was being said, which was again an unclear gospel. Sometimes they ‘almost’ got it.
One place that I just shook my head were a Jewish girl Naomi and her dad. They had started reading the prophecies and came to believe that Jesus was indeed the Messiah. And then they just devoured the new Testament, stopping and mentioning verses like Eph 2:8-9, Rom 6:23; 1 Cor 15:3-4, and yet they accidentally found an ‘insert’ telling them how to get saved and it was THEN that they got saved.
I thought about how useful a fiction prophecy series could have been, and yet these guys can’t even keep it consistent. It was never quite the same, always changing from book to book, as if they were trying to cover all the bases. I was thinking about those who are confused and wondering how many of them have never believed, or like the Jewish daughter and dad, believed, but didn’t know that they were saved, and then someone bewitched them. Seeing as we have such a great hope, I pray we’re all determined to preach with the same plainness of speech as the apostles.
Holly, I’m glad the title brought a smile to your face!
There are lots of deceivers out there and it sounds like the woman you mentioned has landed on one of them.
I had to smile seeing the title, because my late husband used to say that all the time when the kids would use that language. And we sure do hear it from the false teachers out there.
Timely for a poor woman who is very mixed up just commented on Redeemingmoments.com. She cried, begged and pleaded with God to show her truth and now she is following after this law keeping cult guy, who she says is humble and ‘Holy Ghost’ filled. I only watched a very small segment, he erred from the moment he spoke. Went to his site and saw this was almost a cult. So tragic. I hate it. God help them. I told her she didn’t have to weep and beg, God had given her the truth in His Word.
Jason, anyone who has believed in Jesus as Savior has eternal life that can never be lost or forfeited. The church will be raptured before the great tribulation. Those who come to faith after the rapture will not take the mark. Everyone who has believed in Christ as Savior is in the book of life and no one who has believed in Jesus as Savior could ever appear at the Great White Throne judgment or end up in hell.
Jesus took care of the sin problem. But I keep hearing about other problems from the pulpits: the rapture problem, the trib problem, the Mark problem, the judgement problem, the hell problem, the book of life problem. If the sin problem is solved, all the other problems are nonexistent.
Luke, you bring up a good point. There is an over-abundance of both supply of, and demand for, false doctrine that undermines the gospel.
LS abounds and I think it abounds because the appetite for it is everywhere. The demand exists in the pews and so of course there are plenty of ‘teachers’ willing to supply that demand. I think of 2 Timothy 4:3 — this is where we are today. Humanity just has to add something to salvation. They can’t take that simple, plain truth of just placing faith in Christ’s finished work. They cant take the simple truth of Eternal Security. They demand that sugary, sensationalized ‘gospel’ preaching of guaranteed outward behavioral ‘change’.
Kathy, we are glad you were encouraged by the post and thanks for commenting!
Thank you AGAIN for another encouraging and concise post about the Gospel. AMEN!
fryingpan, it’s always great to hear from you. I’m glad you liked the article and I’m glad you were turned off by Francis Chan and his false doctrine and found this site!
By the way, it was more or less seeing a video of Francis Chan saying something like, “Yes, we are saved by grace, but . . .” that started me on my search that lead me to this blog almost 8 years ago.
That guy . . . ugh.
That’s one dandy post, johninnc!
Phil, yeah, the add ons are all about turning peoples’ attention back onto themselves.
I have heard some of those same kinds of things.
Some of the add on’s I come across are like:” If you will confess Him and call on his name.”
” you need to invite Him into your life…or ask him to come into your life.”
“you need to surrender your life to him”
“you need to come forward and acknowledge him publicly.”
and so on..ifs ands and buts.
things that are focused on what we do or intend to do rather than just believing what all he did to save us.
Sam, thanks for commenting!
You are right – the gospel is rock solid no matter how turbulent things get.
Thanks I always enjoy hearing a clear Gospel. Good to hear others expressing it also. Lots of crazy stuff happening this last year but the Gospel is forever thanks again Johninnc
LD, thanks for your encouraging comment! It is great knowing that we are not alone.
It is amazing how so many people hold onto views that are inconsistent. The variations are almost endless.
Great article Johninnc!
I don’t know how many times I heard lordship salvationists use “if” and “but” in explaining their false doctrine of salvation. From their point of view, the LSers see the seemingly “contradictions” as clear and plausible.
– “Yes, it is by God’s grace that we are saved through faith, BUT there will be fruits that will accompany that faith.”
– “IF the believer really believed, then works will be evident.”
– “Eternal security of the believer is true, BUT if you stop believing, then you can lose it.”
Etc….
You can’t correct their argument because they would speak with both sides of their mouths. It’s mind-boggling. I appreciate your persistence in posting articles.
To all my brethren, it is great reading your comments knowing that I am not alone (even though I feel like it at times). Keep strong and carry on in Christ Jesus.
Keith, yeah, John 5:24 is great for fending off LS and putting assurance on the promise of scripture, which is the only sound basis for assurance.
Aristotle, we’re glad that you like the article! There was a lot of material from comments we have received over the years, so it was hard to pick just a few examples.
John, well said. The basis of one’s assurance that he or she has been delivered from eternal judgment is the linchpin that false teachers use to keep people in spiritual bondage so that they will have to embrace their teachings to have such assurance. John 5:24 demolishes that contention by placing the basis of one’s assurance of eternal life where it belongs, on the promise of scripture alone, not on one’s self.
This article is great!
Dennis, we are thankful that you find this site to be a blessing and that you enjoyed our latest article!
Following is a set of criteria that I use to help evaluate scriptural interpretations:
1. Is it consistent with eternal life by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone?
2. Is it consistent with eternal security?
3. Is it consistent with assurance of eternal life, based on God’s promises alone? (i.e., it is not internally-focused on changes in attitudes, behavior, etc.)?
The more subtle attacks on the gospel will clear the first two criteria, but not the third. I frequently use John 5:24 to focus people on the third criterion, to help them steer clear of teachers who preach grace, but also the inevitability of good works, life change, public confession of Christ and so on.
Thanks again for your encouraging comment!
Dear Preacher man,
I love your ministry, and more importantly the dedication you convey in the way you edify the Body of Christ with the word of God rightly divided 2 Tim 2 15.
And also, presenting the gospel of grace, available to ALL who will believe 1 Cor15 vs1-4 KJV.
More importantly, the way you expose the false teaching of Lordship salvation.
It has ALWAYS been “Faith plus Nothing ” (content edited by administrator).
Blessings to you all.
Dennis Klopper
New Zealand